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m3cslboy
18-07-2006, 11:41 PM
basically you lot modding your cars crazy has made me get up and do something ! ! [ok :D

I got my R32 on Friday it was planned to take of the milage im clocking up on my CSL( 15,000 since last November ! ! ) ! and well after todays mods, i might have no need for it as im addicted to the CSL all over again ! ! ! :p

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/r32/DSC00051Medium.jpg

well lets start !!

Firstly after going to Brunty for the 1st time to see Roy's STg 2 S/C a few months back, i got hooked since that day i've been to 3 trackdays in my CSL. :D

I find the car is awesome the noise, the handling, the balance that engine but a few thing really do piss me off about the car. [ok

The brakes always annoyed although they did hold up tremendously well after 3 brutal trackdays, in reality they were finished from there 1st use at Brunty i was braking like a granny, even Paul's 330i passed me under braking at Brunty when it was real bad, they would shudder, judder and do everything except stop the car. :(

and the exhaust noise, its really tame and lame and it affects the snort the car makes, i wanted it to sound beastly infact i wanted it to sound like all hell had broken loose [bounce .

So anyways i investigated into brakes and after talking to various people i decided to go for some Ap's. I got into contact with Thorney Motorsport and i went up to see his Demo CSL which had brakes, exhaust and a remap . Well to say the least i wa blown away buy the car and the folks at Thorney Motorsport, especially John Thorne. He took time out to talk and explain everything to and never forced a sale upon to me , he even advised i could do with just a pad upgrade !

Well anyways with my BBK coming i was overjoyed, then the next day for some reason i went on Klangford and listend to exhaust clips. I watched the CSL video with the full Supersprint System , which was Angus Dawes car(he's one of the 1st people to modify a CSL for hardcore track use) [ok

Once i saw the video ! i knew i had to have that system !

I phoned up Supersprint and guess what that exhaust had a Un silenced centre section [ok which they no longer sold with the LTW race exhuast due to the number of welds that have failed.

I even ran the distributor and he said that he does not sell the unsilenced section anymore Supersprint took it off the market. :(

After feeling down i remeber AJ was one of the first people to have the Supersprint system so i talked to him and he said he'd try something. I also contacted Roy !

Roy was my hero, he gave me alternatives but i really wanted the SS system, in the end he got me the Un silenced pipe and the whole system ! ! I was so so happy i got that unsilenced centre pipe as thats the thing that makes all the racket ! and a bargain price too ! ! [ok

Roy said it would come like in 3-4 weeks, It bloody arrived 4 days later ! ! [situp thank you Roy ! ! !

well anyways with the exhuast sytem , the BBK and 1 or 2 other things which Thorney would take care of, i couldn't wait for my car to be ready ! !

And well eventually today came around and i got all my crap done ! !

I'll post more pics and a write up later, but i'm tired (i've been up since yesterday 4 am !! ) im sticky (this weather is sick ! ! ), im hungry and i'm near enough deaf due to my new exhaust ! ! [ok I've been wearing my new brakes in and just basically driving around laughing my head off as too how ridiculously loud my exhaust is.

If i shut the windows and have sports mode on inside the car at 2000rpm it feels like you head is going to pop, your ears start twitching ! its fliipping hilarious ! ! I can't hear any bass ! ! Also i can't hear the shiity stereo in my CSL anymore i might just throw it out.

well im tired guys , I wanna thank you guys for the inspiration and showing me the way ! [ok

You lot truely are an exceptional bunch of people ! and now i get the modding thing ! ! LOL

i have to thank Aj for his help, Roy for his time and effort and customer service in making me happy, John Thorne for his excellent customer service and going out of his way to make sure i was happy even if it did cost him ! !

Also Andy for the lights ( sorry for not calling you back bro flipping i totally forgot about it work was a bitch ) and Durgesh for that spare Angel eye ! [ok

Cant wait to meet some of you again and most of you for the 1st time at EVO-T fest ! !

Got a few more things planned ! but i need the money ! ! :(

Raj !

before pics

the brakes back and front, look at the discs !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00096.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00097.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00098.jpg

the Remus CSL exhaust

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00100.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00104.jpg

what the side looks like with the standard brakes

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00109.jpg

my cars battle scarred front end , many a fly have died upon this front !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00114.jpg

m3cslboy
18-07-2006, 11:46 PM
now afterwards ! !

umm RED CALIPER ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00129.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00135.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00133.jpg

On the car ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00137.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00139.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00160.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00165.jpg

New Diff and control arms ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00197.jpg

m3cslboy
18-07-2006, 11:51 PM
The rear disk and Caliper ! ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00202.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00203.jpg

Drop it like its not on wheels , oh wait it isn't !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00205.jpg

The Exhaust system, 100 cell race cats, unsilenced centre section and 2 Ltw racing backboxes ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00220.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00231.jpg

YAY YAY its sounds beeefcake ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00242.jpg

the systems on !!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00243.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00244.jpg

m3cslboy
19-07-2006, 12:02 AM
look Johns car got all upset and threw a hissy because my system was louder LOL (JK the Miltek System on Johns car is undergoing some new development)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00232.jpg

John was a real class act even his team are Ace ! ! cheers to Daniel the crazy Skyline owner who looked after my csl and Roosy.

heres a pic of Thorney Motorsports well garage i suppose ,

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00186.jpg

and finally the beast is ready ! ! all new braking system, fluids, hoses, new exhausts and 2 other things between me and my car ;)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00245.jpg

Front BBK

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00251.jpg

Rear BBK

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00250.jpg

Rear new SS Race LTW exhaust !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00257.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00258.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00259.jpg

the finishing sideshot !!

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00260.jpg

cheers guys ! !

Raj

some more pics and writing 2moro !

rahrah
19-07-2006, 12:04 AM
bloody hell!..wow! [bow

Raja_SMGII
19-07-2006, 12:08 AM
Brilliant Raj! Simply brilliant - job well done dude. Your CSL is perfect! I didn't know you could buy a rear disc, was always under the impression it was just a caliper upgrade....

You gonna go for a GTR bonnet?

Your neighbours are gonna love you with those unsilenced mid-pipes!

M5 SC
19-07-2006, 12:08 AM
STUNNING!!!

Awesome job mate, want sound clips asap!

Auryn
19-07-2006, 12:57 AM
very nice!!

(i think seans got a fettish for sound clips!))

m3cslboy
19-07-2006, 02:50 AM
Cheers Raja :) , yeah most people dn't go for the disc as it is the same size as the standard M3 rear disk, but i did it because it would have looked a bit odd to me.

Yeah i really do want a Vorstiener GTR hood but i dnt think i could afford it :( Unless theres a group buy ? ? ?

running 3 cars is a pisstake, as much fun as it is i have to bite reality or i'll go broke ! !

LOL the neighbours *coughs* you mean the Neighbourhood ! Seriously its not even settled and my god the drone and noise level at 2000rpm makes everyone turn around and look ! I mean everyone.

When i floored it down where i park my CSL, 3 people came out of there houses and gave me a dirty stare ! !

Shawn deffo mate [cool , hopefully should get someone to follow me or take vids of me flooring it.

Cheers Parady ! !

m3cslboy
19-07-2006, 03:39 AM
So basically I woke up 7ish, dumped the exhaust in the back of the car ( a pratical supercar this, the seats go down [ok ), drove up to Milton Keynes wheres Thorney Motorsport is based and basically loafed around there the whole day ! ! :eek

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00186.jpg

For a car enthusiast places like this are automotive heaven ! ! [ok

The facilities were Sick, everyhtng was new and it looked crazy ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00154.jpg

anyways this place was sick ! so many BMW's and Vauxhalls but they were all in some state of tuning + some have very hordcore mods ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00187.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00152.jpg

Theres a customer chill out area which is really cool as you can chill out, and watch you car get serviced/tuned through this massive window ! ! which i think is a really cool idea ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00207.jpg

I mean you're paying alot of money and personally i like to see what goes on and how they do things ! happilly thats what John Thorne thinks too ! [ok

Also the chillout area has 2 PC's internet access, DVD player TV, PS2 and shitloads of BMW mags ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00206.jpg

I had no clue half of bloody EvoTechnik were in BMW mags ! ! :eek: I read about Durgs old 340bhp S/C 330 is that ALi in the passenger seat ? ?
Big Fas and his sick converts ! ! 3 cars in 12 years ! ! thats some good ass reliable motoring ! [ok Dr nick ! ! Qaulity guys [cool

I was like WTF is this a EVO tech invasion in mags ! ! [ok

The technician working on my car was Daniel and he's rebuilding his everyday car, a 600bhp LTW Skyline GTR ! this guy must be related to Shawn !!!! :P

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00170.jpg

anyways afterwards i went snooping around the cars ! !

a couple stick to the mind , 1 a Ariel Atom, awaiting the fitment of a Vauxhall VXR engine pushing out 340BHP ! !, VXR turbos, with 340bhp, a 2.2 NA VX220 with 240 bhp !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00217.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00215.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00149.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00146.jpg

My favourite though were Thorney Motorsports demo CSL [ok and there E30 race car, and a gullwing VXR astra with more power than E46 M3's ! ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00167.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00168.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00173.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00174.jpg


The CSL is a STG 3, ie, AP Kit all round, full Miltek system race cats, centre pipe , back box, Shrick Cams :cool: and a remap, thats right a 390/5 NA CSL, it'll be 400 within a week or 2 ! ! :eek:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00182.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00219.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00236.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00240.jpg

and this the E30 race car ! some sick racing on a budget ! this one came with Warrior like battle wounds ! !

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00176.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00181.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/Prodigy3/thorny/DSC00178.jpg

Lastly i have to say the hospitality of that place was sick ! ! Krispy Kream donuts ! !, bare snacks, rides here and there and the chillout lounge + the fact you know your cars being cared for by Professionals ! !

I had a right laugh + i learned a thing or two + it refuelled my passion for my car !

thanks for reading ! [ok

Raj

girlpower
19-07-2006, 06:42 AM
You've been busy...looks great!!! :)

Juber
19-07-2006, 06:47 AM
WOW Raj you must of spent an arm & a leg bro! well done matey!!!!

got to hear waht those exhausts sound like!!!! Those brakes are mahoosive!!!!!!!

Very swish raj!!!!! Nce work! [ok

BigFas
19-07-2006, 06:52 AM
Raj, not only thank you for sharing an amazing set of mods, but what a fantastic write up! Can't wait to see and hear it at Brunty!

mikem
19-07-2006, 06:53 AM
Excellent write up, car looks amazing :D

PAUL ///M3
19-07-2006, 07:27 AM
Seriously nice car you have there just made even better with those TOP mods! the exhaust system looks the cats!

Interesting to see an atom with a vxr engine , ill have to keep my eye on that one i think!

Paul

Nickleback
19-07-2006, 07:28 AM
Awesome Raj, great mods, work & write-up :D

Tin
19-07-2006, 07:59 AM
nice one raj.. that was good read... csl looks good man.. ap's can't go wrong with dem! defo one of the best mods you can do to a car.. improve the brakes!

hows the r32 compare around the twisties?

phat///M3
19-07-2006, 08:02 AM
Nice pics Raj, defo some really cool mods you got going there, I am so jealous... :)

Raj
19-07-2006, 08:28 AM
Raj, you are off the hook matey. Great mods and write-up. The AP's look awesome and they certainly are the best mod you could have done. Get mine fitted today. Look forward to meeting you and the car at Brunty... :cool:

Also, like the title of the thread... :D

cableguy
19-07-2006, 08:37 AM
Superb write-up & superb set of mods [jam

Can't wait to hear some sound clips with the hammer down... :cool:

Thanks for sharing.

C.

Doc Matt
19-07-2006, 08:46 AM
Stunning.

I'll bring my videocam to the meet and make another Exhaust Vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecf2hbxwpX8)

:D

nick_M3
19-07-2006, 10:10 AM
awesome
just awesome my friend....
keep up the good work...make it even better
and then let us drull.......

scorcher
19-07-2006, 10:10 AM
Great write up and pics mate - and can't wait to hear it at Bruntingthorpe :cool:

uberbmw
19-07-2006, 10:59 AM
Brillaint write up and awesome mods theres!

Chaos
19-07-2006, 11:14 AM
Top work Mr Raj, we iz most impressed. :D I trust we'll be getting a demo of that exhaust note on the 30th... ;)

peppernick
19-07-2006, 01:03 PM
Wow! Awesome set of mods there [cool [cool Excellent read.

BeemerBoy888
19-07-2006, 01:10 PM
Stunning dude, must sound and "stop" amazingly now!!

reaver
19-07-2006, 01:54 PM
just SICK! [cool :D nice way to spend a day! :)

paul46rider
19-07-2006, 04:51 PM
sick very very sick!!

peppernick
19-07-2006, 05:21 PM
For those who wants to know what this combo sounds like on a CSL,check this out :D

CLICKY (http://www.clearvisionbulbs.com/m3_exhaust/M3_CSL_Supersprint_%20Race_muffler.wmv)

mystic sport
19-07-2006, 05:26 PM
Damn Raj, that is an awesome bunch of mods you have given the CSL, guess there will be no overtaking under braking again for me, just as I get the BHP you go get the brakes :p . Superb mate [ok

benny boy
19-07-2006, 05:32 PM
I love that sound its sounds the dogs bollocks lol :)

mattj
19-07-2006, 09:34 PM
some serious mods there mate!- looks fantastic

Ali
19-07-2006, 10:16 PM
Nice one bro!

Sounds sick!

Digs.. come on man, get your skates on! ;)

Durgesh
20-07-2006, 01:42 AM
Raj, Can't believe it you beat me to all the mods.

Nice one mate, I was thinking of the same exahust system, did you dyno it?

Does it feel any faster, can you still hear the CSL induction over it.

Can't wait to check itout.

Ali, FUCK off!

Durgesh

m3cslboy
20-07-2006, 01:58 AM
Durgesh Bhi, its a bit tooo louD ! ! !

honestly the bass at 2000rpms is nutz + 1 st day i liked everyone looking but now people are pointing and getting out mobile phones, in a bad way.

+ i've had atleast 15 people hurl abuse at me and i was doing under 30 but the things so loud ! ! i'm glad this thing is not my everyday car !

Aj must be foooking crazy driving his car around with this system.

Durgs the only 1 thing i really do miss is the induction roar and parp. Im sure there is an induction roar but

1) the exhaust is too loud to hear anything at the front.

2) the cars sounds like a wasp, not a bee anymore no what i mean ? like when you go past 3000rpms you get that "PAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP" now all i hear is exhuast drone and some loud ass engine noise !!

It doesn't feel faster but because of the noise i think its a placebo effect, although at the redline it does feel like its lunging forward harder.

No dyno so i dnt know :( , but im thinking of getting a re-map.

However all in all the noise is exactly what i wanted for trackdays and countrylanes, just wish i could still have that induction noise.

As an everyday car, Durgs i dnt know if i could live with it, im still in the excitement phase and im thinking its too loud ! ! so god knows what i think its like when the excitement wears off !

Last Durgesh i can't hear my CD player, the exhaust is so loud that the CD player in my car is redundant :( and thats even below 2000rpm ! !

Not trying to put you off, just making sure you know everything ! ! ! no one told me it was this loud ! ! ! LOL

Raj
20-07-2006, 06:43 AM
I guess the only way Durgs can be sure is when he hears it at Brunty. I am looking forward to it bro, bagsy a ride.... ;) :D

mystic sport
20-07-2006, 07:14 AM
Raj, will it actually b e too loud for track days? Most organised ones have db limits don't they?

Raja_SMGII
20-07-2006, 08:17 AM
Unfortunately this is the Achilles heel of the SS system - that awful drone you get. I have the same setup Raj but use the stock mid-pipes with OEM resonator in place, it does nullify somewhat, but I don’t think it sounds as good as OEM under 3000RPM. Give the exhaust some time to break it though.... Car looks great with the 80mm tips though [cool

m3cslboy
20-07-2006, 03:24 PM
I guess the only way Durgs can be sure is when he hears it at Brunty. I am looking forward to it bro, bagsy a ride.... ;) :D

Definatly mate ! ! [cool just don't complain when we're spinning backwards at 90mph+ ! !! LOL


Raj, will it actually b e too loud for track days? Most organised ones have db limits don't they?

well thats the thing the limitK tracks is 98 Db, the Exhuast itself is 98db, so when the induction roar chimes in it'll be illegal, so when you go past the sensors or the check just don't rev the car ! !


Unfortunately this is the Achilles heel of the SS system - that awful drone you get. I have the same setup Raj but use the stock mid-pipes with OEM resonator in place, it does nullify somewhat, but I don’t think it sounds as good as OEM under 3000RPM. Give the exhaust some time to break it though.... Car looks great with the 80mm tips though

Your right i'll give it some time ! I've left the CSL at the bunglow and until Monday im just gonna be driving the Clio and the R32.

i'm now looking into turning my E36 M3 into a full on race car when i get some money .

Raja do people give you dirty looks when driving ? ?

and thanks guys for the compliments ! :)

mnathan
21-07-2006, 01:30 PM
Raj, you`ve got a dream lot of cars m8......... :eek:

A race car special sounds mouth watering......... [cool

InvIs Inc
23-07-2006, 07:25 PM
amazing write up dude :cool: thanks for that raj and congrats :cool:

adood84
24-07-2006, 04:11 AM
I wonder how I missed this thread great mods , hopefully you will make a full vid with sounds from inside the car and outside and some flybys on the track or something :)

Ali
24-07-2006, 05:34 AM
Raj, Can't believe it you beat me to all the mods.

Nice one mate, I was thinking of the same exahust system, did you dyno it?

Does it feel any faster, can you still hear the CSL induction over it.

Can't wait to check itout.

Ali, FUCK off!

Durgesh

You know the right thing to do... ;)

Har5ha
24-07-2006, 10:40 AM
Durgesh mate...I can hear u coming anyway when u hit one end of the high street and I am sitting at the other! hear u roar past yesterday about a minute before i actually saw u...if u get this exhaust...I might have to invest in some ear plugs!!!!

Let me know if its as loud or louder than hashim's gruppe m when u hear it! Am qutie intrigued!