Car's being remapped

[mysticm3]

me and chaos cars are being remapped at the moment, should be done by Wednesday evening next week :cool: can't wait will post updates when they become available [read

I can organise a group buy on this, price will include a copy of original map.

[Tin]

me and chaos cars are being remapped at the moment, should be done by Wednesday evening next week :cool: can't wait will post updates when they become available [read

I can organise a group buy on this, price will include a copy of original map.


who/what/where? power outputs/ other mods etc..

congrats dude on startin da engine moddin [jam power, its all about power..more is always welcomed... [bow

[Chaos]

I was gonna get mine dynoed before I went for this so I could compare, but in the end the chance came up very quickly so I grabbed it. Hopefully we'll get to see what it does to an M and a mid-sized non-M, probably most noticeably in the mid-range. The guy's a nice fella too, obviously knows his arse from his elbow, just gotta try not to chew my fingernails in excitement before Weds night now.. :D

[330-Singh]

chaos - what do you drive? would be interested to know what gains you get.

[peppernick]

I want a test drive after the re-map!! :D :D

[mysticm3]

for a normal non-M models you are probably be looking at 18-20bhp increase, on my car I am not too sure probably be 10-15bhp we'll see [ok

[lee330sport]

for a normal non-M models you are probably be looking at 18-20bhp increase, on my car I am not too sure probably be 10-15bhp we'll see [ok

That seems a big increase though on an NA car, you sure?

[Durgesh]

His ACS Exhaust will help release more power from the remap....

Teddy... you need a Induction Kit before you remap to make the most of it.

Durgesh

[BeemerBoy888]

Would be interested, whats the cost and do you need anything else in addition? [ok

cheers

[Chaos]

A re-map is a re-map Steve, it's plug and play, a bit like fitting a CAI if you have the tools and the know-how to do it. Better exhaust and better induction all help it, as the guys mentioned, but you can re-map a standard motor just fine. The figures check out Lee, the guys I spoke to first do it as a sideline to their track tuning business and they reckoned they can consistently pull 10% out of non-M 3 series engines. They reckoned they could pull mine up from 180 to 198 for sure and maybe a few more if possible, and Teddy's guy seemed more knowledgable and confident than they were.

Mine is a 325 with a CAI going in but a stock exhaust going out, so I'll probably be looking at (hopefully) the right side of 200, or certainly close enough to climb over it with a cleaner exhaust pipe on. Like Teddy says, you'll probably see slightly less from the M cos it's wound up fairly tightly from stock, but the way I look at it any mid-range improvement is worth doing within reason.

We're kinda beta-testing it at the moment so if it all goes well then the mighty Tedster could probably set up some prices. Maybe even one of the group setups like the window tinting or something similar? Taking the original ecu readings was like 10-15 mins, so probably about the same writing the new ones back onto the ecu and done. It just takes a few days inbetween for the guy to do his magic on the machinery.

[lee330sport]

Sounds cool then. Teddy can you ask them if there is any gain to be had out of remapping my car with the Sk+ on?

[mysticm3]

remapping a SCed car is not a problem, we will need to know what boost you are running on and preferrable a boost graph to look at then we can go from there. The cost will be slightly higher though for SC cars. [cool

[lee330sport]

remapping a SCed car is not a problem, we will need to know what boost you are running on and preferrable a boost graph to look at then we can go from there. The cost will be slightly higher though for SC cars. [cool

[cool Ill see what i can get hold of.

[Durgesh]

hmm..... you got me thinking.. but I am not touching mine. [hmm

Durgesh

[ANT MAN]

A re-map is a re-map Steve, it's plug and play,
We're kinda beta-testing it at the moment so if it all goes well then the mighty Tedster could probably set up some prices. Maybe even one of the group setups like the window tinting or something similar? Taking the original ecu readings was like 10-15 mins, so probably about the same writing the new ones back onto the ecu and done. It just takes a few days inbetween for the guy to do his magic on the machinery.

Not true, there are lots of maps out there and obviously it's better to go to someone who write's their own maps which have been thoroughly tested, than say some guy, who buys maps and downloads them onto your ecu.
Simon Hall at ChippedUK was unable or unwilling to answer my in depth questions. Whereas Roy at Ca-automotive was very knowledgable, open and honest.

It's advisable to see power / torque curves of what is to be expected as some companies are able to get the torque coming in 1000rpm below standard :) and also get good bhp top end.

Are the maps undetectable by the dealers?
Can they be overwritten by the dealers?
Any warranty offered?
Effect on mpg?

Hope it goes well guys. I'm looking to get mine done, once it's fully run-in.

[mysticm3]

the original serieal number will be written into the new map therefore it will go undetected at dealer. MPG will improve as long as you do not drive it too hard with the new poer lol, warranty also available.
[cool

[BigFas]

Are the maps undetectable by the dealers?
Can they be overwritten by the dealers?
Any warranty offered?
Effect on mpg?



1. Yes, all maps are detectable by the dealer. Anyone who says they aren't don't know what they're talking about. My car went in for a service 3 weeks ago, and as most of you know, I get on really well with the guys at my dealer, and the guys on the service desk and I got talking about remaps. They say they can detect every single one. As an example, they showed me what they can download from my car. EVERY conceivable thing that happens on my ECU is logged, stuff which is completely hidden from me and things I wasn't even aware of, like a glitch in the throttle or something like that. Even though the serial number remains the same, they can tell exactly when the ECU was written to. All they need to do is check their records to see when THEY did their own ECU upload and they won't match. So bear in mind, regardless of what ANY chipper says, these things, (even more so on new cars), are fully detectable.

2. Yes, the dealer can overwrite your ECU. Every time your car goes in for a service, the latest software is downloaded. The only time it isn't, is when you specifically ask for it not to be udpated. This is standard practice at my dealer and I've been told that it happens at most, if not all, dealers

[ANT MAN]

Teddy, looks like you got more testing to do ;)

If the maps are overwritten by the dealer, will it be free to get the remap remapped :D ?

Fas, yep, that was my opinion too. The dealer can see everything, though they won't normally be bothered to look, as time is money. I do expect that any engine related warranty work will involve the ECU being thoroughly scrutinised though.

[westside]

i hope this isn't the dude who does the smart cars i wouldn't trust him near my car what so ever i have heard hes a bitof a knob end and chats shit :D lets see what he comes up with neway the ppl telling me he chats shit may have a grudge aganist him but i doubt it

i was gonna get my car re mapped from him but after hearing a few comments i decided not to and took it else where :D

[mysticm3]

Westside - yes this is the guy who has 5 Smart cars if you have note have any personal experiences with him I think it's unfair for you to post comments like this about him? I have known him for more than 12 months and as Chaos has mentioned, he is the most knowledgable guy I have ever spoken to about remapping. If I can trust him with myself and my car, I am sure he'll be good enough for my mates too. You know how I always try and test everything I sell or offer before I start offering them, if they are not made upto my standards they will not appear on Evotechnik or the SSDD site. Just to let you guys know he used to write programmes for various well-known chippers (for some reasons I'd better not name the names) including the biggest name in the remapping industry. Basically what I am trying to offer is for half the price you pay to others you can get your car remapped to the same level as most well-known companies can offer.

Also as Chaos and me have mentioned we are still waiting for the results to come through THEN I will organise a group buy on this if anyone is interested, so I think it's too early and unfair to say that this guy is talking crap or is of a knob end. I am more than welcome to answer any questions people have about remapping, and if they don't trust me they'll go somewhere else to have it done, if the guy is bad I will post the feedback here. I am only trying to provide an opportunity here and share some experiences I will have with remapping a BMW.

Anyone with any other questions please post them here and I'll get answers from him and post replies.

Keep it Real [cool

[BigFas]

Teddy, I think Kav and you are talking about 2 different guys. Your guy is based local to you, the one Kav is thinking of is based elsewhere and I and Nick have had dealings with him personally and in short, the guy is a thief and Kav has already stated, steer well clear of him.

Like I said, I have a feeling you're talking about 2 different people (at least I hope so). Good luck with the remap

[mysticm3]

hmm perhaps we are talking about 2 different guys here if I have offended anyone I do apologise again. Because like I said before I always try something myself first (most of the time friends like you, Nick, Chaos and Kav halep me out too) if it's good I offer them to the public, if not I post some comments and give feedbacks to the supplier and let them make improvements till they are good enough.

I appreciate Kav's comments too as he is just trying to warn people to steer well clear of the guy he knows who is bad, but it's just too coincident that 2 different people are both in the remapping business and also tunes smart cars as hobby lol [read

peace [hiya

[Afif]

what i wanna know is what will a remap do for me :D?

[mysticm3]

will post updates once Chaos and mine cars have been done, we are looking at Wednesday evening as Chaos can't make it Monday evening.

[Chaos]

Not true, there are lots of maps out there and obviously it's better to go to someone who write's their own maps which have been thoroughly tested, than say some guy, who buys maps and downloads them onto your ecu.
Simon Hall at ChippedUK was unable or unwilling to answer my in depth questions. Whereas Roy at Ca-automotive was very knowledgable, open and honest.

It's advisable to see power / torque curves of what is to be expected as some companies are able to get the torque coming in 1000rpm below standard :) and also get good bhp top end.

Are the maps undetectable by the dealers?
Can they be overwritten by the dealers?
Any warranty offered?
Effect on mpg?

Hope it goes well guys. I'm looking to get mine done, once it's fully run-in.
Um, what you quoted from me was completely true Ant. Whether it's a good map or a bad map, it's still plug-and-play and you don't need anything else done to the car. No doubt there are some bad ones out there, I spoke to a couple of people that I wouldn't let within an inch of my motor, and 2 that I would. The guy Teddy and I are trying is one of the 2 I would and therefore have ;).

Like Fas says, any ECU access is detectable if the dealer wants to spend the time looking. Most either don't bother looking unless there's a problem they're trying to solve, or save time by just blowing the latest software over the top as Fas also said. I'd recommend being comfortable with your dealer so that when they ask "Um, why don't you want us over-writing the ecu?", you can be honest with them and try to maintain as much of your warranty as possible. :cool:

Fuel consumption should, in theory, improve. Of course, that will be offset by the fact that the car will have a bit more zip hopefully, and therefore encourage some heavier right foot action, thereby reducing what you just gained. :D. I'd take no increase at all in consumption quite gladly if it gives me as much gain as we expect though. But, like Teddy says, let's suck it and see first, we can discuss what we actually get then rather than just theory.

[lee330sport]

Would have been nice to book some rolling road time while you were getting them done. You could then see the actual gains and the smoothness of the maps.

[peppernick]

Just to add that a full ECU check and flash is a 30-40 min job. Dealers won't do it unless there is a fault code/codes registered on their Mobic. In terms of new softwares, only the 318 Valvetronic and M3 SMG2 have had a few updates and AFAIK, there hasn't been any updates for 6-pots for a long time.

[chipper]

Firstly a few of you guys might know me from the e36coupe forum ( Kav ;) ), Chipper aka Simon Hall. Ant_Man made the comment below that I am associated with Chippeduk, we are two seperare tuners here in the Midlands. This I wanted to clear up as I work for Tuning Concept writing and installing maps.


Simon Hall at ChippedUK was unable or unwilling to answer my in depth questions. Whereas Roy at Ca-automotive was very knowledgable, open and honest.

Ant_Man, I did reply to the one email you sent me, if i didnt reply to further emails you sent please forward them again to my personnel email, simonthall@blueyonder.co.uk and I will be happy to anwser any questions you have.

I also know of the guy who is doing the maps for some of you guys, he owns many Smart cars and owns a Smart tuning business which is based in Epsom, Surrey. I too own a Smart car and not associated with Ian in anyway.

Hope this clears everything up

Chipper

[Chaos]

Yeah it would Lee, especially as every car tends to be a little different anyway, so the specific comparison would have been nice. The chance came up quickly though so we just kinda decided to go for it. Hopefully get a dyno done soon after and see the end results anyway. :)

[ANT MAN]

Teddy, back to my earlier questions. :)

Is your guy going to be providing a warranty and what is covered?

If the dealer inadvertently overwrites the map. Will another remap be offered for free?

Simon Hall, I shall indeed resend you the mail and look forward to your response. :)


Vroooooooooooooooooooooooom!

[westside]

right let me clear afew things up

tuning concepts re mapped my car and around 8 others that weekend. Simion does own a smart car so that may have confused the issue.

TBH i don't want to coma across as harsh but Teddy with all due respect i know that you know that calos dude but I have only heard bad things about his company and his work there are threads on the smart car tuning site about the so called quality of his work thats y i stepped back and let simion do the work for me. I'm no way pushing work towards simion who you go to at the end of the day is up to you I am just warning you from what I have heard BIG performance is not all that it is cracked up to be. However he may have turned over a new leaf and can sort your car out is so then thats great its personal choice but i would rather go with someone who is tried and tested on BMW :D

u get me teddy

[Afif]

noone told me if its worth remapping a 4 pot yet [hmm.

[BigFas]

noone told me if its worth remapping a 4 pot yet [hmm.

It ain't.

Unless you have exhaust and induction to REALLY make the most of it, I would leave it

[ANT MAN]

If anyone's interested, below is the reply I got from Simon Hall today. Price of £249 is correct :eek: Simon's original answers are first (top), then my reply (hopefully underlined, though the spacing kept getting deleted) and his latest answers below that. More information, better informed helps to select the right choice :)

1, If you mean remapping live on a rolling road then no I don’t do this and
there is no reason to do this. We do remap the original map that’s on the
car as we have to keep the EWS and chassis number as standard or the car
wont start. There are no real benefits to remap live unless you have
changed major components like cam shafts, compression ect ect. Bolt on
parts like air induction kits, exhausts are automatically adjusted by the
ECU so there is no benefit to “live” mapping on rolling roads.





2, When BMW connect to the ECU they can see two numbers, version of the ECU
and software inside the ECU. We do not change these numbers, just the
contents of the map. What manufactures are doing are during servicing is
taking a copy of the map and the warranty dept are analyzing the map to see
if its original. So I cannot guarantee that its undetectable. We don’t
dismantle the car, solder and chips so detection is kept to a minimum.


I need to know for sure as I want to keep the 3 yr warranty. I know there
are firms using scramble software and guarantee that it's undetectable.

BMW are finding more ways of detecting modified software. I would be very cautious of any tuning company who “Guarantee’s” their maps to be undetectable. If BMW looked hard enough and spent enough time analyzing the contents of the map then they will see the differences in the hex code. *





3, Yes the dealers can over write the map if they wanted to, I keep the map
on my laptop and can be reapplied again at a later date no problem


Is this free of charge and how long would one have to wait to have it
redone?
If BMW overwrite the map with standard software then I can re-apply free of charge if you bring the car to me. If you want me to travel then I have to cover my costs and make a small charge to cover fuel. BMW very rarely overwrite the map unless they have a fault with the car that they cannot rectify and hope a re-flash would solve the fault. Updated software is not often released on the manual cars, mainly the SMG cars as they have a lot of problems with the box software and are always constantly updating the software to resolve the problems.





4, I don’t have any power figures for this model but you can see the
results of my remaps on the BMW forum when the guys take their cars to
rolling road events. They always produce very good results.


This I don't understand as you have published figures on the web site.
Whoever wrote the remap must have verified the power and torque figures
produced and be able to supply the curves to potential customers, surely?
What BHP and torque figures do you give for my car? I'm more interested in
mid-range torque than top end power. Cabut for instance claim that their
map gives 8lb ft increase at 1000 rpm lower than standard.
We don’t believe in dyno results as if I showed you a graph then that would be for that specific car and each engine behaves differently. We have produced power results for the 3.0, 248bhp and 330nm of torque. This was achieved on a rolling road in Germany using the best fuel available under the best conditions. *





5,* Our maps improve throttle response, remove the flat spots that you find
on BMW engines and my customers regularly inform me their mpg has improved
by 3-5mpg.





Do you have any customers with 330s who would be willing to give their
feedback or allow me to contact them?
I don’t have any specific customers who I could contact but you will see the results from my remaps on various forum, e36coupe.com, bmwland.co.uk, performancebmw, m3&m5 forum and many others.





6, There are no disadvantages to remapping only advantages, gains in
performance, improved mpg, no flat spots.





7, I can attend Chelmsford to apply the remap, usually takes about an hour.
Warranty, we give 12 months warranty on the software we apply should a
fault develop with the software.


How much does it cost?
For me to attend Chelmsford and apply the map, £249 all in.

[mysticm3]

I shall be posting answers to those questions by Ant Man shortly after the remapper has replied me.

[Big Performance]

Got a message from Teddy to answer some of the questions that Simon has answered.
So here goes.:-


I do not do rolling road “real time” remaps either. I have two full systems to use namely Winols(which Simon and Jayson use) and also a FULL millennium machine(www.accinni.com)
The only time I would use a dyno is to get a full break down on the air/fuel ratios of a highly modded car…eg a super charged 328/330 etc.So a dyno run and print out is needed whilst I am present and before the program is written.




Before I remap a car I will read the ECU in the same way that Simon/Jayson do and extract the Hardware numbers and also the software numbers.
These numbers are then re-introduced into the modified map to give the (for example) BMW diagnostics the correct answers so that it believes that nothing has been changed on the ECU.



Friends work for BMW as ”master techs”.I have been told that and now and again a software update is applicable to certain cars (M5 and X5 most recently).
This would necessitate a re-write to your ECU,resulting in your re-map being purged.
If this happens I keep a copy of your remap on my computer and also I give you a copy on a disc for you to keep.So the re-map can be re applied by myself in Staines at NO cost.
If you want me to travel I would charge just like simon/Jayson would.



As Simon says dyno figures do NOT tell you anything about your car unless its your car on the dyno.
I have mapped Mini Cooper Ss for Brooklands Horse Power and had over 210bhp(the car had an airbag lite on and went into Coopers the next day.I rang them and spoke to one of the advisors whom I know well and asked him to run a FULL diagnostic check to confirm that nothing shows up. He rang back later and asked why I had him do a full check, as nothing was wrong.. I told him to drive the car,he then understood.)



Regarding customers, Brooklands Horse Power(being a superchip agent ) read the map that I had put on the car and are now selling it.

I have removed speed limiters from SL55AMGs and E55AMGs whilst re-mapping them, for a large Mercedes dealer in London.

Only disadvantage to a remap is your fuel consumption will go up just after the map has been applied BECAUSE you are using the increased power to put a smile on your face and to show off to your friend.
After you get used to driving a car with more torque the economy will go up to better than before the map.



As these are NOT a generic map (ie a map to suit any 323/325/330 just a change of the software/hardware numbers )
I read the map and check the car over. Then a couple of days later I re write the map to your car. Some cars accept the remap immediately, some take about 10-15 driving cycles before the full potential is realised


If at any time you want the car changed back to standard (selling the car etc) I will do this for you.

Any questions please ask me.
Ian

[mysticm3]

Any more questions guys? [cool

I sent Ian a text msg in the afternoon and 10 mins later he had posted answers here. This is kind of guy I want to work my business with who provides excellent customer service when we need them. Still I will post my feedback here after cars been done and will organise a group buy on this if anyone is interested. :)

Peace

[Chaos]

Should be having my map written tomorrow night, so I'll save my waffle for then, but I do want to back up what Teddy said there. I meet a hella lot of people in my job, almost all of them technical to varying degrees. I've had plenty of experience at spotting the to$$ers from the genuine ones and this guy instantly hit the second category with me. He was honest, he was open, he was friendly and he was punctual (always a sign of someone who takes their work seriously). If the re-map is half as good as the impression he gave then we're going to have quite a few happy little EvoTechnik bunnies driving re-mapped rides. ;)

[peppernick]

I would like to add if I may that in modern cars with electronic throttle can be re-mapped for better response much more easily by just adjusting the throttle curve. Most BMWs have very linear throttle curve but you can overwrite that to give a more exponential throw. This will speed things up straight away. Very good example is the E46 M3 with it's Sport button. Horsepower and torque remain unchanged but electronically the car feels so much more responsive and faster in the real world, the feeling that 30BHP just appeared from nowhere.

So I agree, rolling road output figures are highly subjective and difficult to bear relations to. I mean, if someone tells you a re-map will give you 10BHP, 15ln'ft torque. How do you quantify these figures with actual driving experience?

So as long as you can feel the difference and can justify the cost of a re-map, just do it. IMHO, arguing about how many extra BHP you can get on a rolling road is purely for reference purpose only. Unless the gain is big enough such as power gained from forced induction. But then, you'll appreciate your butt dyno more than the MAHA rolling road ;)

[mysticm3]

totally agree with our in-house master technician Peppernick :D Remapping is just like any mods you do to the car, as long as you feel the result is worth the money then we are happy bunnies. For NA cars remapping is basically the most cost effective way to obtain any noticable power gains, with a decent CAI and exhaust setup of course ;) .

[ANT MAN]

I would agree to most of peppernick's comments but you can get a lot of information looking at power and torque curves. Any old fool can raise the rev limit and claim more bhp, but it'd be only top-end. What I'm interested in is mid-range punch for real road driving. The butt dyno is more subjective and the rolling road more objective. :)

All sellers offer excellent service to try and get your business. It's the service you receive after you pay, that is important. :)

I hope it goes well Chaos. I'll be getting a remap after my motor's run-in.

Btw, I think there is a new BMW ECU which is proving very hard to crack. Ray West told me about it. I hope I don't have it :(

[peppernick]

The new Valvetronic ECU will be a tough nut to crack as it cycles automatically and self adjusts. So a fixed re-map will automatically be overwritten by the dynamic ECU.

I agree that telemetry is very important when it comes to tuning cars but we're talking a modern, normally aspirated, road going 330 with the M54 that comes pretty well tweaked from the factory. How much info can you get from the graphs? Even if there is a difference, it'll be pretty small compared to the more tunable cars. With the petrol 330, you won't get the mid-range torque improvement like that on a turbo diesel. If there's any power gain, it will be in the top end. Throttle exponential allows you to get to the top end quicker.

A dyno session cost approx £50 for 30mins. Most of them calculate flywheel BHP based on a generic estimate. The standard deviation in the peak power estimate will surely be more than what a chip/re-map can extract empirically from the engine. I would just take a re-mapped 330 out for a drive and guage it that way ;)

[Chaos]

Just got back from Casa del Tedster and it's looking (and feeling) good so far.

Re-map went on without a hitch, I was told to go out for a spin to check it so I did (didn't take a lot of convincing lol!), all nice and smooth around town so gave him the green light.

First impressions after a round-the-houses drive home.

Driving back I had a bit of traffic around town, had a cruise through the roadworks on the M25, a blat down the M3 and then a bit of a variety the rest of the way home.

First off, my 325 isn't a 330 now. Nobody was expecting it to be, least of all me. Just a disclaimer for anyone hoping that it'll revolutionise their driving experience. ;) Foot on the floor, it's pretty much the same car, it's hard to notice much difference when you're at max thrust anyway so nothing wrong there and the whole rev range is still nice and smooth which isn't always the case with some re-maps I've heard about.

The two things I did notice were the two things I had most hoped for: 1) At most points throughout the rev range you can gas it and the pick-up is almost instant. Sitting at 85 (which of course means 70, officer ;) ) and just under 4k revs, you can nail the gas and it just goes. You're at three figures (70.0, officer ;) ) before you know it, so overtaking should be easier, and around town doing the same in lower gears kicks you through the traffic nicely. It's not that it accelerates noticeably faster, it just goes as soon as you push the gas so it gets down to business quicker. 2) The thing pulls from like tickover rpm, seriously. I was taking roundabouts in third that I used to take in second (there's a lovely one right near my house that I usually nail in 2nd but tonight I just ripped out of it in 3rd without realising until I went to change up at my usual point and realised I was already in the right gear :D ) and it pulls right from 1k all the way up. The best way I can describe it is like this - you know those fresh spring mornings where the car breathes really well and the engine just feels like it's got more grunt than usual and just wants to go and go? It's like that in every gear now. It feels so much easier to drive quickly with less gear changes.

Like I said, it's not like I pulled away and my mouth hit the seat in an OMG THIS THING IS FAST way, it's just loads of little things where you suddenly think 'hey, that's pretty cool, this baby wants to go'. It hasn't changed the way the engine works for me, it just feels like it's a bit sharper and has longer legs.

2 disclaimers: I'm being fairly careful here to avoid the placebo effect. It would be easy to spend money on something like this with an invisible effect and kid yourself that you'd bought the upgrade of the century. Teddy will tell you I'm a hard guy to please, especially when I'm spending money ;), so I'm being as objective as I can cos telling everyone the re-map rocks my world if it didn't isn't gonna do any of us (or Big Perf) any favours. Secondly, I was given some honest advice (again) to give it a while to settle in and then re-assess the motor to see if it's improved any. It was reassuring to be told that "If it works for you, great, if it doesn't, let me know and we'll have another look at what's happening". That's the kind of attitude I can work with in today's 'Thanks for the money I'm off' society, and those are the kind of people I like working on my car.

Being frank, I've only driven it for 40 minutes so this really is just a 'first impressions' post, but I know some of you were waiting for the first installment so I got down to it. So far, the Butt Dyno (tm Peppernick :p) is feeling good, I'm happy with what I've got, and quite content to chill for the next week or two while the ECU and the map get to know each other a bit better. :cool: I'll let you know how it goes, but with hindsight I'd have done the map for what I've got right now, so any further improvement is going to be a bonus. March is a bad month for me at work, but hopefully I'll have time to squeeze in a dyno session somewhere soon and see what my graph looks like compared to a stock one.

[mysticm3]

glad your first impression regardin the new map is good bro, as we were told, usually it takes about 15 drive cycles for the ECU and map to really know each other so hopefully some little nice changes will also occur once that's been done :)

As for my car, it turned out that my original map had a checksum error (God knows that dealer did to it last month when I have my engine recall work carried out... [jam ) so I am off to dealer tomorrow if I have time and ask them to run a dignosis check on it. Will post followups shortly.

[ANT MAN]

Chaos, you seem pretty pleased with the results so far. I assume the improvement will be greater with the 330. :) It will be interesting to see the new power/torque figures.

Teddy, checksum, that sounds like excel :D

Another question. Is the vanos reprofiled?