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M3-SC-AL
14-05-2006, 12:26 AM
Right need suggestions this is really important, was driving home tonight, car was up to temp etc, gave it somee welly in second gear not just floored it but rolled onto boost, car did the normal, squat, boost, go, then spun the wheels up, hit the limiter and just died

I had to wait for the tow truck to come and get me at 1am... Now when I turn the key the car just turns over, catches then dies, anyone got any ideas, this is really important, Im really hoping I havnt blown the motor, instead just tripped something out, anything worth checking, Im dead stressed and cant think straight, so Im probably missing something obvious

Comments and suggestions really appreciated..

Cheers guys

Al

Juber
14-05-2006, 12:32 AM
AWWW Shizer!!! :eek:

Well im no mechanic, but i doubt it would be a blown engine as the BMW engines are tanks! they can take a beating!
May be a sensor? needs to be put on those diagnostic machine :confused:

But what ever happens mate, i wish u all the best and hopefully you get your motor back on the road as quickly, cheeply as possible!

InvIs Inc
14-05-2006, 12:39 AM
Right need suggestions this is really important, was driving home tonight, car was up to temp etc, gave it somee welly in second gear not just floored it but rolled onto boost, car did the normal, squat, boost, go, then spun the wheels up, hit the limiter and just died

I had to wait for the tow truck to come and get me at 1am... Now when I turn the key the car just turns over, catches then dies, anyone got any ideas, this is really important, Im really hoping I havnt blown the motor, instead just tripped something out, anything worth checking, Im dead stressed and cant think straight, so Im probably missing something obvious

Comments and suggestions really appreciated..

Cheers guys

Al

sounds like the fuel pump dude :o

EDIT:forgot to say.. dude if it doesnt start at all in the mroning then its most defo the fuel pump!

mnathan
14-05-2006, 07:55 AM
Also check all your intake hoses - if there`s a big crack or disconnected hose, you can get the same symptoms

M3-SC-AL
14-05-2006, 08:24 AM
sounds like the fuel pump dude :o

EDIT:forgot to say.. dude if it doesnt start at all in the mroning then its most defo the fuel pump!


Cheers mate, will check the fuel pump today, I cant understand why that would pack up, but given the extra stress I place on it then Im not surprised, any easy way of checking it ?? ie would it show as a fault on diagnostics ?? the good thing is I checked it this morning....still wont start.......but it has no engine warning lights showing, thinking about it if Id blown the motor then I would not even be able to turn it over.. but it fires it just wont keep idling

I'll keep you posted. cheers guys

any other suggestions though are still welcomed, I dont wana rule anything out at this time

mystic sport
14-05-2006, 09:18 AM
Bit of a long shot but maybe the crank position sensor gave out. Normally they give early symptoms such as cutting out etc before totally giving up but if the fuel pump theory doesn't yield any results it may be worth looking at - good luck. If a fuel pump, or fuel starvation occurs you would normally get a period of rough running for maybe a few seconds before it toally dies, that is what happened when it packed up on my previous 325.

Dan V8 M6
14-05-2006, 09:27 AM
Al, just hope its nothing major,

godd luck Dan

M3-SC-AL
14-05-2006, 11:27 AM
Cheers guys

In many ways I hope it is something that cause me to take out the motor, It'll give me an incentive to rebuild it bigger and better.

I spoke to my tech today (nice guy, phoned me on a sunday to check my car was all right cause his mate saw it on a tow truck) its gona go in tommorow so fingures crossed

Ill keep you updated

LordNikon
15-05-2006, 10:42 AM
Coil Packs, or coils - does it fire on all cylinders or not ??

Could be fuel related, sounds electrical to me though. Any fluid leaks over night that you have noticed :confused: [hmm

InvIs Inc
17-05-2006, 10:08 PM
any update dude?

M3-SC-AL
18-05-2006, 02:02 PM
No update as yet, cars couldnt get into the workshop till tommorow so Ive been pacing aorund all week, also been checking everything 6 million times to make sure its nowt obvious.. will no tommorow I hope. It seems to be leaning towards coilpacks..

LordNikon
18-05-2006, 05:35 PM
If it is do i win a prize for guessing right ??? :p lol

A go in the beast would be more than enough :cool: [jam

M3-SC-AL
18-05-2006, 06:07 PM
Just spoke to Active this afternoon and there is a possiblity that that EWS is out of sync but chances are slim, Im hoping that the rroot of all this evil is the MAF sensor to be honest and not coil packs. If thats the case my life is gona be a whole lot eaiser cause im ditching the MAF in a couple of days.

When you gona order the SII kit for yours dude..

And your always welcome to come out for a spin

LordNikon
18-05-2006, 07:03 PM
I forgot about the MAF - it could be that, but from my understanding it would start but idle roughly.

Kit is afew months off really yet :( :(

M3-SC-AL
18-05-2006, 07:46 PM
True but you never know, I wasnt quite sure what Carl ment by the EWS being out of sync but I'll ask my tech tommorow..

Really want the car running, Ive been hacking round in the other halfs RX8, keep over taking things in 4th gear and then going :eek: not enough Va Va Voom, its SO different to the M, (handles well though)

once you get blown you'll never look back :D :D ;)

Other side is once its running I can fit my new bits..

Stock323iSaloon
18-05-2006, 08:08 PM
i thought maybe coil pack but since u have 6 of them, even if one dies, i thought it`ll struggle but still stay on so maybe not. i thought about cam shaft sensor or idle control valve...

LordNikon
18-05-2006, 09:12 PM
Is it true coil on plug technology then ?? I thought it was 6 coils one on each plug, but an overall coil pack to control the lot ?? [hmm [hmm

Good Luck with whatever it turns out to be ! [hmm

M3-SC-AL
19-05-2006, 02:05 PM
And the correct answer was















the F'#cking MAF sensor....

:mad: :mad: :mad:

Annoying thing is our local stealer who is USELESS and thats an understatement wont do VOR if the cars not in there workshop, Snows in Pourtsmouth who are the best people I have had to deal ever with can have one to me by Monday, and there in the UK.. go figure

Still got a dilema though, the new toys I am just waiting on, no longer needs the MAF sensor, so do I wait for 2 weeks without my baby, knowing that when its running again its gona be a rocketship, or do I spend £200 and order a new MAF [hmm

what do you reckon..

I just wana say thank you as well to everyone that gave me sugestions to resolve this issue, its great to know that you can post a problem and there are load of people who are there to help you out.. so thanks again

InvIs Inc
19-05-2006, 02:50 PM
tuff 1 dude :( i would prob just wait for the new goodies but still get a new maff couple of months down the line just incase.. plus think of all the money u will save of fuel for the next 2 weeks lol.

do u good 2 get about without a car lol be more fun when u get it running again :D

well done on guessin it was the maf sensor 2 start with dude :cool:

LordNikon
19-05-2006, 03:54 PM
MAF must be well mullered to do that. Bummer mate, at least its a reasonably priced fix and nothing tooooooo $$$ !

I would wait personally, its £200 in your sky rocket if you wont need it in afew weeks time

RDG 40
19-05-2006, 04:12 PM
Personally I wouldnt get it if in 2 weeks its gona be useless so hang in there and get ya new bits on.

someone giv al a supercharger fix to get him by

Raja_SMGII
19-05-2006, 04:20 PM
Before you part with £200 for a new MAF try a bottle of Isopropyl Alcohol 99% available from your local Maplin. It has a reputable following a very good contact cleaner for sensitive electronic parts mostly in copiers, printers etc.

I have a tuned 2003 1.8T GTI running up to 240bhp and after near 70,000 miles whenever I have any flat-spots or feel the car isn't running right. I do a quick diagnostic [Vag-Com] through the Air/Fuel/MAF reading. If I find it a little low. I take it out give it a clean with the Isopropyl Alcohol and hey presto: it's back to 4.5-5.1g/s and the car boosts so clean through the revs. Definitely give it a go!!


http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=28994&criteria=Isopropyl%20Alcohol%20&doy=19m5

InvIs Inc
19-05-2006, 06:31 PM
Before you part with £200 for a new MAF try a bottle of Isopropyl Alcohol 99% available from your local Maplin. It has a reputable following a very good contact cleaner for sensitive electronic parts mostly in copiers, printers etc.

I have a tuned 2003 1.8T GTI running up to 240bhp and after near 70,000 miles whenever I have any flat-spots or feel the car isn't running right. I do a quick diagnostic [Vag-Com] through the Air/Fuel/MAF reading. If I find it a little low. I take it out give it a clean with the Isopropyl Alcohol and hey presto: it's back to 4.5-5.1g/s and the car boosts so clean through the revs. Definitely give it a go!!


http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=28994&criteria=Isopropyl%20Alcohol%20&doy=19m5

HA genius!!! there u go alex problem solved :D