Supercharger spring sale

[peppernick]

What more can you ask for? :cool:

http://www.infinitas-gmbh.de/data/index.php

[Tin]

What more can you ask for? :cool:

http://www.infinitas-gmbh.de/data/index.php

erm, one pretty please with sugar ontop.. for E39 M5 :D
seems like a top company... [banana

[lee330sport]

Wonder if the upgrade to SK2 will be cheaper then :D

[Durgesh]

Lee, don't bother with SK2, go up to SK1 if you like. I am running what is suppose to be SK2, but our manifolds are holding back a lot of the power. If you are going to get custom manifolds made then maybe its worth it. I was going to do this and go up to SK3, but have decided to stop where I am. Car is running sweet, don't want to upset the balance.

Durgesh

[kris d]

Cheers Peppernick - you just saved me about 600 quid! [ok
Does anyone know what the deal with paying VAT is if going to infinitas to get it fitted?
Or would it make any difference with VAT if I got one shipped from infinitas and installed at CA???

Cheers

Kris

[Durgesh]

Kris,

If you get fitted in germany you won't pay the local tax, when you come back remember to declare to customs. If you do forget then you wont be paying the VAT. ;)

If you get one shipped over, you will be charged VAT on it.

I don't think infinitas will let a UK customer buy from them direct anymore as they have given the dealer rights to CA, but check, I might be wrong.

Durgesh

[peppernick]

Wonder if the upgrade to SK2 will be cheaper then :D
With the intercooler, the SK+ is not far off the SK1. After all, induction pressure on the SK+ is only 0.1 bar off the SK1 and I'm sure some trick pulley from Infinitas will solve the missing 20+BHP.


If you get fitted in germany you won't pay the local tax, when you come back remember to declare to customs. If you do forget then you wont be paying the VAT.
Oh, don't forget to leave your cheques/credit cards/bank drafts behind before you head over ;)

[kris d]

Cheers Durgesh, I am actually getting very forgetfull in my old age, so I'm sure I'll forget at the time!

Peppernick - So am I right in saying that If I get the SK+ with additional intercooler my 330ci will be over 300bhp?

Cheers

Kris

[lee330sport]

Yeah probably a different pulley from infinitas should do it, then install an intercooler....wonder if i could get one of the new technik ones sent over :cool:

[kris d]

Might be able to pick you 1 up mate if you can wait till April when I make the trip......

[kris d]

Just spoke to CA, and they recon you need a 'spec' clutch if going for the SK+ kit - an additional £5 - 600quid [bang
Anyone got one of these? Is it necessary?
Cherrs
Kris

[lee330sport]

I think the standard clutch will eventually go, and is probably better if you do go for an upgraded clutch, i was recommended the stage 3 but dont think thats needed. Wether you get them at the same time is upto you.

Does an M5 clutch fit the 330?

[kris d]

Would not have a clue about the M5 clutch mate to be honest, but keep us posted if you find a suitable clutch cheaper than the 'spec' one.

Out of interest, how much did you pay CA for just installation?

CA have quoted me for the SK+ £3,395 including fitting, VAT etc.

In Infinitas' sale they're doing it for 3,099 Euro's + UK VAT when importing = 3,640 Euro's = roughly £2,600...........

Just for reference CA also confirmed what Peppernick said before about fitting a 6speed box and a diff from a 325auto. He recon's with this and the SK+ the car should almost wheelie! [writesmil

[lee330sport]

£800 difference, it depends how much the travelling to Germany and back will cost you really. Either way the costs will be simular.

Im getting the new diff fitted in March, along with a lightened flywheel and clutch ( i already have the 6speed) so ill let you know how that goes.

I paid £700 for the installation but we came across a few problems because the facelift has quite a few changes. The only thing that needs altering now is the airfilter moving underneath the headlight, as it doesnt quite fit behind the revised headlamps.

Then ill probably leave it then [crackmeup

[ANT MAN]

What about the BMW warranty Lee? I suppose most engine related claims will be rejected by them. Though you must have been given a warranty by CA as Infinitas offer two years?

[kris d]

Cheers Lee, think it's got to be worth going to CA in the end rather than the 3 days or so to Germany + back.
Yeah mate that'd be good if you could let me know how it goes with the diff, from what I hear, this is one of the best modds for acceleration you can get!
My only reservation is that maybe with 18'' rims there might be a lack of traction, ie. loads of wheelspin.... can anyone verify this.........


ANT - the warantee infinitas offer is only a warantee on the charger, not on the engine. To be honest, all BMW specialists I've spoken to say that the new E46 6cylinder cars engines are almost bullet proof!

Cheers

Kris

[peppernick]

What about the BMW warranty Lee? I suppose most engine related claims will be rejected by them. Though you must have been given a warranty by CA as Infinitas offer two years?
If you're into a mod like a S/C, BMW UK engine warranty will not be the most important thing. What is more important is making an informed decision and buying a trusted and proven product. So far ASA has 100% track record, much better from that point of view than even the S54 gem of an engine that comes hand built from BMW Motorsport.

One thing I've learnt over the past 3 years, if a mod is good enough to satisfy the ultra demanding, law suite trigger happy, all out modders on e46fanatics, they will be more than good enough for anyone over here. ASA/Infinitas has 100% support from them [cool

[Durgesh]

LOL... too funny.

The reason CA told you about the diff is because they took the idea from Nick.

The reason why they told you to get a Spec clutch stage III, because that is what I have installed. CA became a dealer for spec, after speaking to me about thier clutches. Its all quite funny really.

The Spec clutch is hardcore, if I had the chance would probably try out the UUC M5 one instead.

Durgesh

[peppernick]

The reason CA told you about the diff is because they took the idea from Nick
Just sharing ideas, which is not a bad thing [cool

I've had first hand experience with a 3.46 diff and I know through this that it will be ideal when matched with the 6-speed gearbox. Plus I also have had first hand experience with the SK+ on the 330 with a slightly more aggressive 3.26 diff. Not many people can justify this claim but I can confidently say SK+ plus 3.46 plus 6-speeder WILL be an absolute blast [ok

If you can get an LSD......... [jam [jam [jam

[Durgesh]

Lee, I am thinking of getting the Technik IC too, the problem you will have is all the pipe work that is required, as the SK+ does not have this.

Also you will need a ASATronic box if you turn up boost, won't be a simple plug and play into the ECU like you have now.

As for clutches... This is what you need.

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/flywheel/LFWLE46SH.htm

Comes to around $1000 for both clutch and flywheel. And as I said before go for the M5, Sachs Power, or a Spec Stage 1

Durgesh

[lee330sport]

Ill only go for the intercooler if its not gonna be too much of an A-hole to adapt the SK+. I think if i fit the diff and the flywheel the acceleration should be enough for now.

Durgesh, just had a look at the link and it states for 5 speed models. Mines the six speed. Will it still fit? Seems a better option though. [ok cheers

Nick, which is the best diff to go for, 3.26 or 3.46, bearing in mind i dont do much Mway travelling apart from meets.

[kris d]

Infinitas do a centrifugal clutch, which i think disconnect the chager at idle? Would the centrifugal clutch work in conjunction with a spec/m5 clutch?
What's the cheapest clutch I could get away with on a 330 with SK+?

Also, relating to my earlier post about the german vat, infinitas sent me the following:
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Hi Kris,

thanks for your answer. If you have an own company please send me the adress and the VAT no. You don`t have to pay the German VAT 16%. Otherwise you have to pay the VAT and after you declare the supercharger kit at the customs you will get back the VAT.

Best regards
Dirk
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So, am I right in saying that I pay the VAT to infinitas on the day and I can claim it back at customs?
Alternatively, does anyone know what the implications would be if I used my frineds company address and VAT number. Would he be stung for the vat in the future?

Cheers

Kris

[lee330sport]

I think im right in saying that the ASA clutch is a part of the SC, which allows it to disconnect at idle, ie when not needed. It wont have anything to do with your transmission clutch. Sure Nick will be able to correct me or tell you more.

I think your looking at around £4-500 plus fitting for a clutch. And you will need one as mine is already showing signs and its only done 3.5k :)

[KELKIN]

"I think im right in saying that the ASA clutch is a part of the SC, which allows it to disconnect at idle, ie when not needed. It wont have anything to do with your transmission clutch"

that is correct, it disengages the charger below 1,000 rpm (for quietness and to save fuel) it is standard on sk1 and above and optional on sk+ i believe. :)

[Durgesh]

It disengages the charger below 1,000 rpm (for quietness and to save fuel) it is standard on sk1 and above and optional on sk+ i believe. :)

That is exactly correct, however its 1,400 rpm, but can be mod'd to engage at 1,200 rpm like mine was in Germany. :-)

Lee, call up BMW and get the part numbers for the 5 speed and 6 speed clutches if they are the same, you would have to be very unlucky for one not to fit. Also send an Email to UUC they know thier stuff, I am sure they can tell you.

Kris, if you use yours friends company, the money that pays for the charger has to come from him, and it becomes a buiness expense for him. I don't think the Tax man will understand why a mates Supercharger kit was a business expense. He could get done for it in the future. As its his work my advice is don't mess with it.

What's going to happen is you pay Infinitas the Germany VAT, then you claim that from Customs when leaving europe, and then you pay the UK Vat.

I would just pay the germany vat, and come back to england.... don't know how bad that is...

Durgesh

[peppernick]

Lee, I would go for a 3.46. I tried one on my 330 but the SMG software has difficulty recognising the chnage in ratio. With a manual, this is not a problem. 3.46 is ideal for a 330 for some spirited driving.

[lee330sport]

Cheers Nick, 3.46 it is then. What bmw do these come out of, and best place to get one, breakers?

[peppernick]

328 or 325 auto.

Try Fab Direct

[444bhp Ray]

328 or 325 auto.

Try Fab Direct

Nick what about for a E46 M3 been looking and making some phone calls
391 and a 410 want some money i can tell you :eek: what about a breakers? out of what?dont forget its SMG11 ,what do you think [read

[peppernick]

For the M3, SMG2 is a lot cleverer. It can adapt, even with a 4.10. However, I've heard good things about 3.91. Only drawback is that these diffs or crown gear/pinion are genuine upgrades and not available from a broken car, so expect £££££. AFAIK, the entire rear LSD is either 3.91 or 4.10 will set you back at least £2500-3000. You can get the crown gear and pinion from CA for £1500-ish.

Any M mods = £££££££ :(

[Tin]

Any M mods = £££££££ :(

you got that right! :eek: been looking at a 3.45 LSD upgrade for fatty, dinan=$2000 with core exchange.

Any idea how much these weigh? trying to work out shipping costs, to see if its viable.
i think a diff from a 760il can fit a m5 [read [hmm

ps:sorry for the thread hijack :p

[lee330sport]

Just found some more info on the diffs

With 330 6spd tranny and 2.93 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 37.89 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 65.93 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 99.29 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.07 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 36.16 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 62.92 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 94.76 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.15 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 35.24 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 61.23 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 92.35 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.23 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 34.37 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 59.80 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 90.06 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.46 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 32.08 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 55.83 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 84.08 mph

[peppernick]

If you don't get any wheelspins ;)

I've kind of given up on actual numbers as in real life, you find that there's no way you can come close to the quoted figures, unless you do runs after runs in extremely good conditions. Most important is what my butt dyno tells me, especially in-gear acceleration.



Any idea how much these weigh? trying to work out shipping costs, to see if its viable
Similar to a pair of BBKs. Fed-Ex wants $300 for the brakes from LA to London.

[lee330sport]

If you don't get any wheelspins ;)

I've kind of given up on actual numbers as in real life, you find that there's no way you can come close to the quoted figures, unless you do runs after runs in extremely good conditions. Most important is what my butt dyno tells me, especially in-gear acceleration.



Similar to a pair of BBKs. Fed-Ex wants $300 for the brakes from LA to London.

Yeah, just wanted some rough figures. Didnt want to be sat in a low gear at stupidly high revs, but the 3.46 seems fine.

[Durgesh]

Only go for the 3.46, if you are not going to increase power.

As Nick will also tell you, my car only just manages to get traction.

I would not mind going to say a 3.15, but anymore than that is a no go.

So anyone found where we get LSD ones from?

Durgesh

[peppernick]

Rennsport/Teknik can build you an LSD with crown gears in different ratios.

[Ali_]

Unfortunately i cant offer any input into this one but ill let you all know that this is a very very good thread and one of the reasons i love coming here, to not just look at pretty rides but to increase my knowledge.. [ok

[kris d]

Hi
Does anyone know if a LSD from an E46m3 would fit a 330ci?

Also, what would be better on a 330:

SK+ with 6speed gearbox and 3.46 diff

or

SK Stage 1 alone....

[lee330sport]

Does your car already have a 6 speed box? If it has then id go for the SK+ and the 3.46 diff. If not id go for the SK1 or 2, because it would probably cost the same to get a 6speed conversion?


Ive just ordered the M5 clutch and LW flywheel combo, now just looking for a 3.46 diff. All going well should be installed sometime in march. So ill let you know ;)

[peppernick]

Hi
Does anyone know if a LSD from an E46m3 would fit a 330ci?

Also, what would be better on a 330:

SK+ with 6speed gearbox and 3.46 diff

or

SK Stage 1 alone....
The M3 has different diff housing and diff size, so unfortunately no.

Power aside, the SK1 will run more effeciently with an intercooler especially during the hot summer months. With the SK+ you may loose a bit of power without an intercooler

Inlet manifold air temp contributes significantly to combustion efficiency and power produced. Compressed air can heat up by 70 degree C with a 0.5 bar kompressor. With the low compression SK+ TM3-13 (0.3 bar), inlet mainifold air temp heats up to 30-40 degree more than outside; hence an intercooler is not required. However, if the ambient air temp is already 35 degree C, compressed air will hit 70-80 degree C.

I spoke to Infinitas and it'll be difficult to add a 'proper' intercooler to the SK+ because the plumbing will have to be redesigned. However, they will produce an AFTERCOOLER later in spring which works very similar to an intercooler. Power gained according to Infinitas is around 35BHP over the stock SK+ 286.

Don't forget SK1 will come with it installation cost of near to a grand (unless you go over to Infinitas which will still cost you around 1000EURO). The SK+ is definitely more affordable initially and you can always upgrade as and when your budget allows.

[lee330sport]

The M3 has different diff housing and diff size, so unfortunately no.

Power aside, the SK1 will run more effeciently with an intercooler especially during the hot summer months. With the SK+ you may loose a bit of power without an intercooler

Inlet manifold air temp contributes significantly to combustion efficiency and power produced. Compressed air can heat up by 70 degree C with a 0.5 bar kompressor. With the low compression SK+ TM3-13 (0.3 bar), inlet mainifold air temp heats up to 30-40 degree more than outside; hence an intercooler is not required. However, if the ambient air temp is already 35 degree C, compressed air will hit 70-80 degree C.

I spoke to Infinitas and it'll be difficult to add a 'proper' intercooler to the SK+ because the plumbing will have to be redesigned. However, they will produce an AFTERCOOLER later in spring which works very similar to an intercooler. Power gained according to Infinitas is around 35BHP over the stock SK+ 286.

Don't forget SK1 will come with it installation cost of near to a grand (unless you go over to Infinitas which will still cost you around 1000EURO). The SK+ is definitely more affordable initially and you can always upgrade as and when your budget allows.


The sk+ upgrade sounds nice, anymore info or is it just a wait and see? That puts the power to around that of SK1 :cool:

[peppernick]

Infinitas is pretty tight lipped at the mo so have to wait and see ;)

[kris d]

Just ordered my SK+ today from infinitas to benefit from the 20% february sale! Getting fitted on 14th April. Spoke to them about this aftercooler and their reply was as follows:
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Hi Kris
that`s right. I can`t tell you the delivery time but I think ca. 5-6 months. The price is also not calculated and we think complete arround 2.800.- until 3.000.- Euro.
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That's all the info they'd give me!

After much thought, I have decied to just get the SK+ and a different diff without doing the 6speed coversion as i've been quoted 700 just for fitting the 6spd box. Will probably get this aftercooler thing when it comes out in July/August as well.

Does anyone know what the best diff would be for a 330ci 5 speed? Please bare in mind that I will have SK+ soon and I don't want to be wheelspinning all over the place. I want an increase in acceleration from the stock diff but want 2nd gear to go to at least 60mph. Any ideas guys?

Cheers
Kris

[lee330sport]

Just found some more info on the diffs

With 330 6spd tranny and 2.93 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 37.89 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 65.93 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 99.29 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.07 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 36.16 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 62.92 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 94.76 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.15 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 35.24 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 61.23 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 92.35 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.23 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 34.37 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 59.80 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 90.06 mph

With 330 6spd tranny and 3.46 rear end with read line of 6500rpms
1st gear maxes out 32.08 mph
2nd gear maxes out at 55.83 mph
3rd geear maxes out at 84.08 mph
;)


Another SC 330 nice :D

Sleepless nights for the next 2 months

[kris d]

Cheers Lee

Yea, sleepless nights indeed! Mate's got an E36 328i and we're even's from standstill up untill 80mph so looking forward to chewing him once I've got my SK+ fitted.

Regarding the diff, would those speeds still be the same for a 5speed box?

The 3.15 looks attractive, any idea what 3 it's off?

Thanks for your help mate.
kris

[peppernick]

Congrats Kris, another top product [cool

The 5-speed is very similar to the 6-speed without the extra overdrive gear, so with a 3.46, you will have ballistic acceleration (still the best ratio IMO) but will have to put up with pretty high revs on the motorways in 5th. 4200RPM at 80MPH.

A compromise would be a 3.23 or 3.15, although the 3.15 may be too close to stock.

Talking about sleepless nights, I could not concentrate at all at work the week leading up to my SK+ install....you'll be a S/Ced zombie :D

[kris d]

Cheers Nick you're always a great help.
So, what car does the 3.23 diff come from? Also, will it be straight forward to fit or will it have to be modified to fit my 330vert?

And lastly, roughly what revs will I be pushing at 80mph with the 3.23?
Thanks
Kris

[lee330sport]

I had sleepless nights too. :D

One thing ill see though is dont build yourself up and expect a ballistic point and shoot machine. As soon as you take your first drive you wont notice much difference because the power is so smooth. Dont get me wrong is is quite abit faster but you dont really notice it, just feels like a factory standard car. Its only when you see the speedo going round faster the the rev counter. :D

Although if your getting your diff at the same time it will probably be more noticable.

Does any one know the 0-100 and 0-120 times for the M3. Was making some vids and wouldnt mind comparing the times

[kris d]

Cheers Lee
Had the same thing before in my E36 days! Went from a 328i Sport Coupe to an M3Evo vert. The M3 didn't seem any faster than the 328i but then when my mate got a 328i I had a go and it seemed slow in comparison!

What do you recon you're 0-60 time is roughly with the SK+? Do you recon it would lose at least another 0.5 off the 0-60 of a standard one? [hmm

Can't wait! :p

P.S. Regarding a suitable clutch, I got the following response from infinitas:
We don`t offer a engine clutch, because the series clutch is strong enough for the SK plus and it`s proplematical to drive with a race clutch for example during the rush hour.
Is this true?

Cheers Kris

[lee330sport]

Cheers Lee
Had the same thing before in my E36 days! Went from a 328i Sport Coupe to an M3Evo vert. The M3 didn't seem any faster than the 328i but then when my mate got a 328i I had a go and it seemed slow in comparison!

What do you recon you're 0-60 time is roughly with the SK+? Do you recon it would lose at least another 0.5 off the 0-60 of a standard one? [hmm

Can't wait! :p

P.S. Regarding a suitable clutch, I got the following response from infinitas:
We don`t offer a engine clutch, because the series clutch is strong enough for the SK plus and it`s proplematical to drive with a race clutch for example during the rush hour.
Is this true?

Cheers Kris

No idea about the 0-60 unless it got timed properly? Def feels alittle faster although its at higher speeds that the power is more noticable.

Im not sure about my clutch, i think its suitable but will obviously wear quicker. With some upgraded clutch can be heavy and be hard work when your on and off the clutch in traffic. Also some have very little clutch slip, so its either on of off, if you see what im getting at. You can get used to it though just dont let other people drive it. Ask Durgesh :(

[Durgesh]

I don't think for SK+ its worth changing to a different clutch, just keep the OEM, unless you are going to up the power to SKII or something.

If your old one is giving way, best to replace with OEM one, mine is a real pain, I drive around london all day, and yes I have got used to it. But I think I am now getting a gearbox problem... no sure, being looked at soon.

So just replace for a one stock for a Sk+ Kit. IMO

Durgesh

[kris d]

Thanks mate, I'll stick with my one then, it's showing no signs of slipping so should be ok!
I know what u mean about the clutch, mine on my old E36evo was a bitch in trafic. Litrelly gave me a dead leg after about half hours driving!

Cheers

Kris

[lee330sport]

My SK+ is giving me problems now. :(

One of the pulleys are is not lined up with the rest, so the belt is sitting half on half off, now this would be ok but because of the alignment it pulling the belt off the supercharger :eek: . Opened the bonnet after a drive today to find the belt half off the supercharger pulley. Need to sort it before pod :(

Ill post a pic in the morn to show you what i mean.

[peppernick]

Get Roy to sort it out ASAP! ASA's set up was perfect.

[lee330sport]

Get Roy to sort it out ASAP! ASA's set up was perfect.


Yeah hes already onto it. [ok

[lee330sport]

Heres the pulley, seems like its loose too. Need to get it sorted by pod. :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/leezafgsi/Dscf0008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/leezafgsi/Dscf0002.jpg

[Afif]

what did roy say?

[lee330sport]

Sent him the pics, just awaiting a reply. Probably get it sorted up here and then sort it out with roy next time im down there. ;)

[lee330sport]

Anyone know where the tensioner is to lossen the belt? Need to try and put the belt straight again.