What Chip/re-map?

[ian_79a]

Hi all i want to get my car Re-maped who should i go with??

Is there any one in the south east offering re-maps?

whats Chippeduk offering for £150 and is it worth it?

[Nickleback]

Ian,
This guy is ace, really knows his stuff, works with an ex-BMW guy in Germany.
Had mine re-mapped about 6 wks ago & really pleased with the result, several other forun members have used him to :D
Simons number is 07973553549. He mobile & will come to you from his midlands base.

[MistaSmiff]

Ian,
This guy is ace, really knows his stuff, works with an ex-BMW guy in Germany.
Had mine re-mapped about 6 wks ago & really pleased with the result, several other forun members have used him to :D
Simons number is 07973553549. He mobile & will come to you from his midlands base. so what do you get for £150 ?,i'm thinking of having mine done too..

[BigFas]

Isn't Chipped UK run by a guy called Jayson?

[speed]

Simon did mine to, really knows his stuff and he'll travel to wherever you are.

[lee330sport]

Depends if you want before and after dyno plots too. Id recommend AMD in Bicester.

[Nickleback]

so what do you get for £150 ?,i'm thinking of having mine done too..

He downloads you existing file & saves it for you in case of restoration, exports a copy to his German tuner who completely reworks it to optimise your type of car, re-installs it & checks its all Ok = £200 :D
In a nutshell !! [cool

[ian_79a]

How long does it take? didnt think he comes to you thought you had to go to him

[Shuriken]

I think you're right Fas, he goes under the name of chippeduk on e36coupe and on bmwcarmagazine, although before chippeduk he used to be known as eminence on the latter.

Bit of background. :)

Shuriken.

[MistaSmiff]

basically what i'm saying is what am i'm getting for £200, better mpg, an extra 50bhp :rolleyes: , quicker pickup ?, also if i took my car to bmw to get serviced after a re-map, will bmw just undo everything that was done ? :rolleyes:

[Nickleback]

basically what i'm saying is what am i'm getting for £200, better mpg, an extra 50bhp :rolleyes: , quicker pickup ?, also if i took my car to bmw to get serviced after a re-map, will bmw just undo everything that was done ? :rolleyes:

Increased BHP but not a lot - difficuilt to measure & quote, mpg about the same, you get an improvement but tend to boot it more, mines dropped from 28mpg to 27mpg on average.
What you are getting is far better pick up through the bottom end to midrange where its really noticeable, pulls smoothly right through the range, higher revs by another 500 mph @ the top end & no limiter. :D
Cheapest way is to take it to him!

[Chaos]

higher revs by another 500 mph @ the top end & no limiter. :D Holy moly, count me in for some of that! :D

Yes, it's hard to quantify, but basically a good tuner will basically take the edges off the car and leave it smoother and quicker to respond. You won' t notice any extra power, but you will notice it gets down to the job more rapidly, so it'll feel quicker.

BMW can overwrite the tune if they decide to upgrade your ECU software, but most good tuners will give you a copy of the re-map so that you can just contact them and have it re-written again.

[Lucky Bob]

Thers so much bullshit with re-mapps, you don't know what you've got unless it's been validated on a dyno, As Lee said try AmD, or DMS and probally a few others, TDI-PLC

You need to start with what is your car producing at the moment, all car manufactures bend the truth on outputs and 0-sixty times, standard late model M3's don't produce the bhp that BMW say they do, they all got slightly de-tuned a few years back to eliminate engine failures.(ask Nick)

So get your car on a Dyno about £ 65.00 and see what it produces.

Find yourself a tuning company with a rolling road who go into print with their figures and offer before and after dyno runs.

I've been to AmD and I know that Lee took his last car there you could also try DMS who have a very good reputation with diesel tuning ( don't let that put you off)

Above all any tuning without validation on a dyno is just unknown

Perhaps we need to have a rolling road shoot-out if there enough interest we could get someone to open on a Sunday for us , has this been done before.

If we can get enough response there a company in Aylesbury that might be interested, cost would be dependant upon mumbers

LB

[Nickleback]

pulls smoothly right through the range, higher revs by another 500 mph @ the top end & no limiter. :D


Opps :eek: Wish it did ! :D should be RPM of course - now where's that twin supercharger for the M5 v10 I was playing with :rolleyes:

[MistaSmiff]

Well this is exactly what I needed to hear guys, proof of what has been done to your car instead of taking the technicians word for it, nice one guys. :D

[Lucky Bob]

Lee,

Sorry mate, just remembered your last ride went to G-Force Motorsport and not AmD. Thats who i'm thinking of for a "shoot-out" if theres enough interest.


LB

[lee330sport]

No mate your right, my car went to AMD. IMO they have the best rolling road setup in the uk.


Id say an dyno is a must. How can somebody check your A/F ratio is correct?

[ANT MAN]

No mate your right, my car went to AMD. IMO they have the best rolling road setup in the uk.


Id say an dyno is a must. How can somebody check your A/F ratio is correct?

Simon doesn't alter the A/F ratio. A full explanation of this was posted by myself on BMW car forum.

[CA Automotive UK]

hi , here is my say on the matter based on our experiences over the years :

-contrary to most people's opinion ( and I lll bet some of ou wll disagree anyway :)) , a good re map on a NON TURBO car is not primarily about huge power gains but about response , snoothness and elimination of flat spots and at times lowering of peak torque rev point...all of which will make the car point to point faster than a mere increase in BHP .

-as an added bonus you get a bit more bhp and elimination of any top speed limiter .

- any one claiming more than , at most , 15 bhp from a re map on any non - turbo BMW engine up to 3 litres is , in our experience "innacuate " .Do you really think BMW engineers that designed the map are that bad at their job ? Yes they build in compromises for different climates and usage , but not THAT much.....

- On diesel engines its a different story due to the new map increasing turbo boost pressures ;some incredible power and torque hikes are possible .

- We have used Chipped UK , AMD and DMS , all of them are EXCELLENT .
for sheer value for money and good service Jayson is very hard to beat .
DMS will travel all over UK for you , and use "embedded " re maps which means the dealer cannot "see" the new download at service time .
AMD also have good maps and the advantage of on site dyno.

- Far as I know you are ALWAYS in danger of losing any new map if you have a service at a dealer afterward , as they routinely download latest patches and fixes from BMW ( like Windows does on your PC ) ; the dealer will not even know he is wiping out your nice new map ! DMS can offer a "coded " re map on the ECU or DME unit that will not allow a new download , but then the dealer will off course wonder what the problem is

- What I used to do with my own car was slip the service gut actually in the workshop £20 to not download any new maps at service or inspection time :)

[ian_79a]

thanks for all your feed back will definitly be getting a re-map soon.

Whats DMS info?

[CA Automotive UK]

hi ian

DMS charges are a little high compared to some , but very good . However as an agent I am happy to offer you 10 % their retail , a little more if I can ,
I dont have their number here , but will pm you in next couple days

all the best

[ANT MAN]

Roy

I didn't think the $tealer bothered to download the latest software unless the car had problems? My local certainly doesn't. Time is money, money is time etc.

[Jazz]

Here is DMS homepage (http://www.dmsautomotive.com). The also do porker tuning :D

[Lucky Bob]

Roy

I didn't think the $tealer bothered to download the latest software unless the car had problems? My local certainly doesn't. Time is money, money is time etc.

Yes

thats the way as I understand it, I agree with Roy's post and with regard to the last pargraph I contacted AmD to see what their expeirence has been with their maps being wiped by BMW servicing, and they also said that their maps are embedded and that they had not had any compliants ( ok so they would say that ) with cars coming back.

However I think that Roy's spot on with increased Bhp being capped at around 15, I had a V8 jag that was remapped at great cost by a real big name in jag tuning and that could only manage 18bhp and the guy was doing chartwheels claiming how clever he was to extract that much, 303 Bhp :D

Unless you strap a super charger onto the 330 we are not going to see big increases, I guess thats why those who don't go the hardcore Lee route buy an M3, No well there a statement of the obvious. :rolleyes:

[alpina527]

Just to clear this up.

Jayson is ChippedUk

Simon's company is e-maps, formerly known as Tuning concepts.

Nicklebacks map was done by Simon.

Both their maps are very good, but if you have any major mods, then someone like AMD with their rolling road will squeeze a bit more out of it. I took my stroked 2.5 there a few years ago and was astounded by the difference. However, if you have a standard car that just needs mapping, I wouldn't bother using them. They are very expensive £££

[Nickleback]

You pay's your money, you takes your choice!! ;)

[CA Automotive UK]

I stand to be corrected as always , but I a sure there is always a danger of losing your new map at service time , because as i say any NEW patches or fixes that have been issued by BMW will be downloaded at service time , it is in their own interests to do this to keep the cars current and warantee compliant . A I believe it it done thrugh the OBD port it does not really take too much time .

However these new patches , I am told , usually only appear during the first year or so of a new models release as the factory gets feedback on such issues from owners / dealers .


I know for a fact this was the case with my E36 M3 because I TWICE lost my remaps and was accusing the mapping company concerned of conning me ..I then looked into it further and the dealer ( in this case Barons Hindhead ) confirmed new data had been written onto my DME .

An embedded program means the dealer will not see that fresh data has been downloaded when he plugs in the diagnostic / obd lead , but this will not prevent a new BMW map being loaded on .

I also agree with Alpinas comments re use of rolling road to remap for bigger mods .

[ian_79a]

would you say Eisenmann exhaust and CAI are big mods or are you talking about Superchargers and turbo charged?

based on what everyones said corrrect me if im wrong but i should be happy with the results from Chipped UK on my car

[lee330sport]

I think by big mods he meant superchargers/Headers etc. You should be fine with the eisenmann and CAI, the ecu will adapt to small changes itself.

[CA Automotive UK]

I think by big mods he meant superchargers/Headers etc. You should be fine with the eisenmann and CAI, the ecu will adapt to small changes itself.


agreed ......

[alpina527]

Yes, by big mods I mean Supercharger, Turbo, stroking, hairy cams etc. Things like an exhaust and Cai are no problem.