e46 m3 brakes [Archive]

rcmex

23-09-2009, 03:31 PM

Hi need to change my front discs on my m3, i thinking of the performance friction disc and pads, and use same calipers. Is it worth spending a bit more on these over oem disc and pads or should i get oem disc and redstuf pads for now and go the hole way (when funds are thier ) and get a bbk later, or have anyone got any others that they ues thanks Roger

M111PDM

23-09-2009, 04:14 PM

rcmex

23-09-2009, 04:25 PM

Hi Phil, i take it 370+ vat is for a pair and are one peice disc, which pads do you advise for road and two track days a year thanks Roger

M111PDM

23-09-2009, 04:39 PM

Hi Roger,

Its £ 370 inc vat but plus delivery.

If it is just fast road then we would recomend Stoptech's own Axxis Ultimate pads which are priced at £ 72.71 inc vat for front pads.

If it is for fast road and occasional track we would recomend the Pagid Rs 4-2 pads which are priced at £ 186.49 inc vat for front pads

cheers Phil

chrisbmw22

23-09-2009, 05:31 PM

Stoptech have released some uprated oem size brake disc's for the E46 M3 and the good news is they are cheaper than oem disc's at £ 370.00 for the front.

But please, please don't put Ebc pads on your car :eek: :eek:

cheers Phil

Sorry to hijack the thread , but are stoptech doing rear brakes for cheaper as well as the fronts ?

Cheers

mystic sport

23-09-2009, 06:29 PM

How come stoptech can sell an entire pair of disks for £370 but charge £700 just for M3 BBK disks and that is minus the hats, just the rotor :eek: . I just don't understand why?

paul46rider

23-09-2009, 06:32 PM

its cos they have you buy the bollocks Paul

Phil got any pics of the fronts

Davidch

23-09-2009, 06:40 PM

its cos they have you buy the bollocks Paul

Phil got any pics of the fronts

What Paul said Oh yeah and because you have an M! :rolleyes:

I thought that a pair of OEM discs are like £260-£280?? :rolleyes:

M111PDM

24-09-2009, 12:18 PM

Here are the answers to your questions:

-chrisbmw22: Yes stoptech offer the same Uprated oem size disc's for the rear aswell. They are priced at £ 360.00 inc vat.

-mysticsport: Price's for the replacement disc's vary dependant on the application. But for an example Stoptech 355x32mm front E46 M3 replacment disc's for BBK are priced at £ 577.90 inc vat

-Paul46rider: I do have a picture i'll try and load it as an attachment. If not you can see them on our website.

-davidch: Price for oem BMW disc's are £ 318.00 inc vat for the front. For me i would rather spend the extra and get the uprated Stoptech disc's

Hope this helps :)

cheers Phil

Gary

24-09-2009, 01:32 PM

Have got the Stoptechs myself with Axxis Ultimate pads on my M3 and they definitely feel better than the OEm ones i had before (have had them 2 years now). I also went for the braided steel hoses as well.
If your rears are going to need doing soon as well might be worth a look at the complete kit that Stoptech do, assuming they still do it, got mine through CA.

Out of interest does anyone (Phil probably) know if the Axxis pads come with sensors. I think i might be due a new set of front pads (discs still seem okay) but haven't had any sort of warning light, have done about 18,000 miles on them now, road only and plenty of motorway. Just don't feel quite right under heavy braking and have had a couple of slight lock-ups, but no real noise or anything.

M111PDM

24-09-2009, 01:57 PM

Hi Gary,

No the Axxis ultimate pads do not come with brake pad sensors, but we can supply oem BMW one's with them at extra cost :).

Also just a quick note , its cheaper at the moment to buy the disc's / pad's / brake lines seperatly rather than buying Stoptech's stage II kit.

(Just to help you save a few pennies)

cheers Phil

Gary

24-09-2009, 02:00 PM

Cheers Phil,
Will have a look at my pads and discs properly and see if they need doing, so far only had a glance but no noticeable lip on the disc and no scoring or similar on it either, but they just don't feel quite right, only under heavier braking though.
Have been very impressed with them.

M111PDM

24-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Also, another thing that helps is a fresh brake fluid change when replacing the disc's and pads. Use the 5.1 fluid :) and you only need to change the sensors if they have been broken through (warning light on dash) if that has not happened you might be spending money on sensors you don't need to.

cheers Phil

rcmex

24-09-2009, 03:43 PM

Hi Phil the pics of the disc look good are they in stock, and is slotted or drilled best or is it just a personal thing and just to comfirm £370.00 is for two disc and bells thanks Roger

M111PDM

24-09-2009, 04:02 PM

Hi Roger,
The disc's are not in stock but will take no longer than 7-10 days to get in from Stoptech. We prefer the slotted disc's as they help to disipate the heat from the disc's and they also help offset brake fade. The drilled disc's do nothing other than look nice and in extreme cases can crack under constant heavy braking.
I can confirm that this price of £ 370.00 (+postage) is for a pair of front Stoptech uprated disc's and bells for the E46 M3 in either slotted or drilled finish.

rcmex

24-09-2009, 04:17 PM

Hi Phil thanks for the reply i will give you a call and sort that out with you thanks

M111PDM

24-09-2009, 04:30 PM

No worries Roger:)

cheers Phil

rcmex

24-09-2009, 08:15 PM

Gary thanks for your comments on the stoptec disc and pads, good to hear from someone who has used them. what i have found is this is my 3rd m3 i had a 03 53 and now a 05 and i have had to fit new disc to all of them, i have just gone and got oem ones and with in on time they are noisy under braking and i get steering wheel wobble (maybe im hard on brakes) thanks

Gary

25-09-2009, 01:18 PM

rcmex,
That is exactly what i found with my OEM ones, usually if having to brake twice fairly quickly, such as dual carriageway with roundabouts, and that wasn't even braking excessively.
I have the slotted discs rather than drilled. With this disc and pad combination it is no noisier than the OEM ones, i.e. can't hear any squeal or anything, unlike what I've heard about some of the other pads out there. Also found you don't get any more brake dust than normal either, certainly not noticeably anyway as haven't had to clean the wheels any more often.
I think I'm due some new pads, and possibly discs as well on the front, and will get the same combination again I've been that impressed with them.

rcmex

25-09-2009, 06:08 PM

Gary thanks , i ordered a set today (slotted ones) and went for the axxis pads , but its nice to hear from someone using them thanks Roger

Imola

25-09-2009, 06:26 PM

Are the fronts floating or just 2 piece ??
are the rears 2 piece ??

PF are floating fronts and 2 piece rears

M111PDM

28-09-2009, 12:08 PM

Both the front and rear disc's are floating disc's :)

Imola

28-09-2009, 04:07 PM

can you pm me a price for replacement rear disks for the E46 M3 :)
do they do a J hook or is it drilled or grooved only :)

M111PDM

28-09-2009, 04:45 PM

Hi Imola,

They come in either slotted or drilled finish. The price for the rear disc's are £360.00 inc vat + postage :)

cheers Phil

Imola

21-10-2009, 04:15 PM

just an update on these disks,

I have just received my grooved rear disks, great service from the guys at CA :) again ;)

they are floating as the standard OEM ones are, but they are not 2 piece, separate bell/hub which unfortunately I thought they were. The disks look OK but if anyone is thinking of upgrading I would go for the performance friction 2 piece disk with separate alloy bell. So much lighter :eek:

My problem being a tart is that when I eventually put my AP kit on with PF grooved front disks I wanted similar looking disks on the rear. The rear PFs I have are great but they only do the dimpled type disk for the rears, hence why I went for the grooved stoptechs thinking they were a full 2 piece :o and would look better, sort of matching the front disk look but with the added benefit of a lighter alloy bell disk combination.

PF pull your finger out and make matching front and rear disks in the grooved or dimpled style for the larger disks none OEM size :mad:

rant over

rcmex

21-10-2009, 04:52 PM

Just to add to imola i have just got my stop tect disc from phil at ca and wish i went for my 1st choice of the performance friction as the stoptect ones are one peice no alloy bells as pics on this post and very heavy. so not what i wanted,what they will work like time will tell but at the moment im just going to give them as hard a time as i can, hoping i will reck them and need new ones .

Imola

21-10-2009, 05:04 PM

do you want some (££discounted) matching rears mate

Imola

21-10-2009, 05:06 PM

the stoptect ones are one peice no alloy bells as pics on this post

:o i went on the pic as well, DOH

M111PDM

21-10-2009, 05:24 PM

Hi RC

We have replied to your emails to us on this subject today and hope to resolve any dissatisfactions you may have.

To clarify matters:
-Our website does state that the image shown is for illustration purposes only and may not be true representation of what you receive for a particular model.
-The discs are indeed two piece, they are floating, but the bells are not seperable from the rotor... this is where the confusion has arisen, and we genuinely apologise if we were not clear enough on this, we obvioulsy would not intentionally mislead anyone, much less a forum member.
-The discs are we believe no heavier than OE items.
-If anyone who has purchased these is dissatisfied we will of course refund you in full as long as the discs have not been used.
-The PFC discs do look very good....but is the extra cost really worth it ?

The PF disc's for the E46 M3 are over Double the Price