Crackdown on illegal plates - Police warning

[XKaLiBaR]

A nationwide crackdown on illegal number plates begins today with motorists facing fines of up to £1,000.

Operation Larch is a week-long national campaign to step up enforcement of current regulations and officers will target vehicles with misrepresented plates.

Illegal alterations rangefrom changes to the layout of plates or use of non-standard fonts, through the use of tape, screws, and other objects to obscure plates, to sophisticated measures such as the use of stolen or false number plates to clone vehicles.

Frank Whiteley, ACPO lead on Automatic Number Plate Recognition and Chief Constable of Hertfordshire Constabulary, said: ‘Criminals make use of vehicles to commit crimes and in some cases, will tamper with number plates in order to try and avoid detection by roadside cameras. Operation Larch will bear down on this growing concern as part of The Police Service’s ongoing campaign to target criminals through their use of the roads.

‘It is not known how many motor vehicles display misrepresented number plates or how many are driven by active criminals, but Operation Larch will provide intelligence for the first time on the link between this offence and broader criminality, and inform a debate around the tightening of legislation around number plate offences.’

Police warn that not only do drivers face fines, their registration mark may be withdrawn without any compensation, and cars may fail their MOTs.

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this sucks for people who only just spaced out ther plates. the only time i have ever encountered a police officer about my number plate, was when he was complimenting me about it lol. he then told me how he got £30 fine for his the month before, but his was 10x worse than mine.
so hopefully the good cops, will be nice to us. especially when the law states that a number plate must be eligable from 25 yards away. (i think)
ive also read somewhere, that just like how mobile phones started with a £30 fine, then 3 points, this number plate fine will turn into 3 points as well. Which is just stupid.
although i agree that you shouldnt have italic/bold or any different style of writing. it doesnt even look nice.

[yas_530d]

yep,totally aware,got fined on saturday morning!

[XKaLiBaR]

how bad is your plate? just spacing or custom writing?

[Styler]

mine is just bunched together with standard font, so hope it's ok. when i got fined for my fogs the police dude had no probs with it, its very easy to read.

They should pull over the people that smudge that black crap over their number plate (looks like shoe polish) so cameras don't pick up the plates. I see so many everyday, looks so dodge, don't know how they get away with it!

With my luck, i will get pulled over first thing tomorrow morning! lol

[yas_530d]

its
W XXXX
Got 3 spaces or so
been on the car 9 months. time of stop was 6am so prob had nothing better to do
also got the front windows tinted,nothing mentioned!
guy said they can register the car on a Q plate if i dont sort it out

[Mehmet]

I got black plates on mine, i got pulled over on the way out of A10 Mcdonalds on Saturday night but lucky i never got done.

I saw you leave Xkalibar then 15 mins later i left and got pulled :D

[Black Sabbath]

:mad: The last thing scum bag car criminals do is try and attract attention to themselves or the car.They are more likely to put false plates on and try to blend in.Most people with mispaced plates do it for the opposite reason.Its another just kick in the bollox for the easy target motorist I think.If the police start applying a points system for it ,that will confirm the motorist really is the easy option for them.The whole points system used at present is stupid anyway.

[Styler]

Points system for minor stuff like this is ridiculous!

Maybe those LED rear license plate lights i fitted last week weren't a good idea after all lol. They can see my plate from far now!

[XKaLiBaR]

that sucks dude. Q plate? didnt think they could do that! probably bluffing!

Styler, hopefully they would be kool with your plate.

[Styler]

I got black plates on mine, i got pulled over on the way out of A10 Mcdonalds on Saturday night but lucky i never got done.

I saw you leave Xkalibar then 15 mins later i left and got pulled :D

Mehmet, you should have put your flashy flashy on when they pulled you over! lol, That would have confused them LMAO! :D

[XKaLiBaR]

I got black plates on mine, i got pulled over on the way out of A10 Mcdonalds on Saturday night but lucky i never got done.

I saw you leave Xkalibar then 15 mins later i left and got pulled :D

ahh mate, i wanted some mcdees, but the que was way too long for my liking :D

did they tell you to take the plates off?

[Mehmet]

They were after all the 106 and saxo boys that were hammering down the A10, they just told me that i could have had a £30 fine if i dont change them.

Styler, lucky i DIDNT have them LOL

[alexsh1]

The law states that,

You must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers
Characters must not be moved from one group to the other
(e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).
Offences may result in any or all of the following:

A fine of up to £1,000
The registration mark may be WITHDRAWN - they can do this! :(
The vehicle may FAIL the MOT test

[alexsh1]

I was gonna order a black number plate, but ... I think this would be another reason to pull me

You must display a white reflective plate on the front and a yellow reflective plate on the rear (unless your vehicle is pre-1973, in which case you have the choice of modern coloured plates or black background), according to UK legislation.

[jordan3054]

I think it would be silly too to introduce points for something so minor.

If I was still in the job, I wouldnt have done someone for something like plates being altered a bit. However, with all this target driven policing from above, its causing bobbies to just do people to keep their bosses off their backs :mad:

[alexsh1]

Some people are quote bad with number plates. I saw several times small Citroens and Peugeots type of cars really abusing it big time - Italic font, spacing, modifying letters with fixing bolts etc.. I am sure there are other drivers like that.

[adood84]

you guys shouldn't be upset really , they have the right to fine or what ever, since even before this you knew your plates were illegal I say take it like men when it comes :D. I tinted all my car even the front windscreen and got pulled over fined and had the thing removed on the spot , I wasn't upset as I was expecting to happen at some point and so should you

[mystic sport]

Absolutely right Adood. I have one space added to my plate but I use the correct font in the right size and unless you are Mr Magoo it would be impossible to not be able to read them. If the police pull me and want proof positive that my plate is easily read by ANPR, I forgot to pay me congestion charge a month back and the damn camera had no issues reading that plate :( . If the police pull me then I will put on my 'MOT' plates and simply get new ones made without the one space.

[peppernick]

My plate will stay the way it is and I can't be bothered with tints anymore.

I was stopped early this morning by the plods because they said I was 'using my fog lights' when it was not foggy. Now, I don't do such :rolleyes: . My CLK has parametric illuminating headlamps, ie. active headlights and when the car is travelling below 25MPH and you're making a turn, the fog light at the side you're steering the car towards will light up to provide illumination to that corner, and turns off once your travelling straight again. Same for the other side. Now try explaining that to the police at 7am :rolleyes:

Anyway, whilst talking to the police, another went round my car checking the plates, windows for tints, tyre thread etc. Potentially messy if I still had my BM.

[Styler]

I guess it is just down to luck if you get pulled or not, and probably more to do with what mood the police officer is in.

I pass about 3 police stations on my way to work. There is a big one in Sutton that i drive by, and most of the time a police car pulls out behind be at some point in the mornings, but i haven't had any probs with my plate, yet.

[alexsh1]

but i haven't had any probs with my plate, yet.

Do not push your luck mate :D

We never really know guys. A year ago at the Norway border I was given a knife by a police officer to strip all the tinting on my the then new M-class MB :eek:
Though I have to admit, the whole car has been tinted incl windscreen and you cannot see a thing in the car from outside. it complemented MB black colour well.

If you have an illigal number plate / tinting do not fall in love with it as you may be aked to remove it / correct it on the spot. ;)

[Styler]

Do not push your luck mate :D

We never really know guys. A year ago at the Norway border I was given a knife by a police officer to strip all the tinting on my the then new M-class MB :eek:
Though I have to admit, the whole car has been tinted incl windscreen and you cannot see a thing in the car from outside. it complemented MB black colour well.

If you have an illigal number plate / tinting do not fall in love with it as you may be aked to remove it / correct it on the spot. ;)
That's why i haven't opted for tints on my car becasue if they cant see who is drving then that gives them even more reason to pull you over to check you out.

[XKaLiBaR]

i may have to put the little lip on the L back to normal :(

nick, i cant believe they did that to you at 7am in the morning! didnt they realise, boy racers with ther saxos/fiestas/corsa are asleep at that hour!

[Moe]

Im doomed my plate is mis spelt however they didnt say anything when i got pulled last time

I hope they let me off damn im scared :(

[MEGA]

i may have to put the little lip on the L back to normal :(

nick, i cant believe they did that to you at 7am in the morning! didnt they realise, boy racers with ther saxos/fiestas/corsa are asleep at that hour!

yay! you didnt say peugeots :D

[XKaLiBaR]

yay! you didnt say peugeots :D
initially i did :p but then i remembered the peugeots isnt a boy racers car, more of a girly car :D :p
i have respect for the peugeot 205, as its such an awesome car still to this age.
and the 206 has had the same style for such a long time, and still looks modern today.

[alexsh1]

Sorry, no respect for French cars apart from Renault. BMW rules!!!

[Juber]

Excalibur aint you a cop?
To be honest it was a matter of time when this come in place! Every one with private plates have bolts, different fonts etc to try and get it to spell somthing copletley different to the plate.
i dont see spacing being a problem, especially Stylers plate, as its very clar what the mark is!

And whats this crap about oh Peugeot is crap, etc etc? cars a car and not evey one has the money to go out and buy BMW, merc Audi etc.

As for french cars Alex, i know you hate them , im sorry that you dislike the Bugatti Veyron ;)

[alexsh1]

Juber, you know what the police are like. They may not touch you for years and then you are pulled for a wrong font on your number plate :(

[Sid]

yep,totally aware,got fined on saturday morning!
how much was the fine?

[dxb335d]

thanks for the Headsup Baris. Where did you hear this?

Luckily its just a week long purge.

[XKaLiBaR]

no problem, saw it on pistonheads. thers a topic on ther talking about it. its kinda moved onto whether foglights are worse than illegal style number plates lol

[BMW JAY84]

Cheers for the post mate. Wish you'd told me this on saturday though :(

To be fair mine is pretty easy to read so im going to chance it.:p I think they're more interested in the blatant mis-representation of numbers and letters through bolts or fonts or other methods. Having said that I can imagine if they pull you for something else they'll top it off with the plates.:mad: As mark (black sabbath) said they just use it as a money making exercise. Like criminals will want to draw attention to themsleves with mis spaced plates :confused:

[XKaLiBaR]

i only just saw the report yesterday mate, sorry :( im going to chance it too.
i dont drive it that much, so i should be ok.

[BMW JAY84]

No worries just see how we get on :)

[dxb335d]

I mean how else would you space 3nvy?

[MEGA]

dxb, thats not his whole plate.

I wont say what it is exactly on the forum but it "sounds like" "U ENVY" - its the beginning bit that might cause him problems. Same with another member moe.

[Moe]

You normally get a £30 fine bro, im goign to chance it hope i dont get done

[dxb335d]

dxb, thats not his whole plate.

I wont say what it is exactly on the forum but it "sounds like" "U ENVY" - its the beginning bit that might cause him problems. Same with another member moe.

Oh right i couldnt remember. I have seen Baris motor in the flesh i just could not remember what the whole reg is. i will have to look at my photos lol;)


Ccarlos

[XKaLiBaR]

dam, i thought i had you all fooled :p

[Gavin]

Hey guys/girls...

First post here...although I read the forum occassionaly...

Re: dodgy plates... trust me it's not worth it.

I'm a "cop" as someone put it and with ANPR becoming more widespread you WILL eventually get stopped for it...





We have 3 options with regards to illegal plates;

1. £30.00 on the spot non-endorsable fine (most common)

2. Reported on summons for the offence (won't really happen unless the plate is terrible)

3. Report you to the DVLA whom can/will revoke the plate (this happens when you get the fine/ if you keep refusing to change it voluntarily)





I realise some plates are only on the car because they look great/spell something whilst being mis-spaced and it's not criminals (i.e. the people we're after) doing this....

But you have to understand the Police aren't targetting the ordinary motorist for an easy ticket....simply:

We use cameras to police the roads - if your plate stops us doing our job expect to get stopped and dealt with regarding the offence (especially if it is traffic that stop you)

[BMW JAY84]

Fair point but are you telling me that if I had a plate with incorrect spacing but perfectly legible unobscured letters ANPR would not recognise this ?

[Gavin]

Fair point but are you telling me that if I had a plate with incorrect spacing but perfectly legible unobscured letters ANPR would not recognise this ?

ANPR is a funny old thing...it's getting better and better as time goes on...but yes sometimes it will not recognise it because you have ONLY mis-spaced the letters...

Saying that we have false activations on completely legitimate plates where it has mis-read a character...

We check, check and double check indexes before stopping the vehicle...

All I'm saying is, expect to get stuck on if it is an illegal plate...
As it becomes more wide spread, having a "legal" plate will become more of an issue....ANPR is still in it's infancy yet....

[BMW JAY84]

Cheers for the input gavin. In that case if I see old Bill ill floor it away from them so they cant do me for the plate :p

"Joking " :D

[Gavin]

Cheers for the input gavin. In that case if I see old Bill ill floor it away from them so they cant do me for the plate :p

"Joking " :D


Haha :D

Yeah, tbh if you're involved in a pursuit...you'd probably get away with the dodgy plates....it's just the other million motoring offences you'd have to worry about :D

[Doc Matt]

the use of tape, screws, and other objects to obscure plates

I'd better keep The Plastics Depot delivery van locked up this week then :eek:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v505/doctormatt/vanplate.jpg


welcome to the forum Gavin :)

[BMW JAY84]

Thats a good point matt. Pimlico plumbers will be fucked !!!! :)

[XKaLiBaR]

wouldnt they have to prove that the ANPR cant read your plate? would be more fair for the normal motorist. some people paid a lot of money for ther private plates, which were endorsed by the DVLA.
Gavin, is the paperwork a lot to take someone to court for a number plate? i know the fine will be easy paperwork.

[mho]

Hi Gavin and welcome to the forum. Thanks for the info giving us the pov from the other side. I do think that it is unfair that you can get done even if you've have only mis spaced the plate, but if that's how it is then that's how it is. Luckily the private plate I'm going to put on my car doesn't need any mis spacing :p

As XKaLiBaR said, how about the exclusive plates sold/distributed by the DVLA e.g F1, how would he space that out to be readable?

Michael

[Gavin]

wouldnt they have to prove that the ANPR cant read your plate?


No - that's not an offence - for ANPR to not be able to read your plate

The offence is your plate not conforming to what is set out in The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001...



Oh btw, I completely forgot the Vehicle Defect Retification Scheme we run....(another option when dealing with plates or any vehicle defect for that matter)
We issue you with a VDRS for non-conforming plates and you must have it rectified, taken to a MOT test station, stamped then shown to a Police Station within 14 days...failing which you are reported for the offence...




Paperwork wise, tickets are easy...on the spot.
Being reported on summons depends on what you are being reported for etc... as we list all the offences to be taken into consideration, do a statement and submit...my last one took me about 20 minutes

[Gavin]

Re: other cherished transfers...

F1 will be just that...to read as the DVLA issued it to the owner...
The owner would know because it will be spaced on his entitlement certificate as it should be displayed on the car


If you look at tax discs, the printed ones, show the index as it should be spaced on the car...
Example "S1 LLY" would read just that on the tax disc, but may read "S1LLY" if the owner has mis-spaced it on the vehicle. (thats an example btw, I don't even know if that plate exists)


We're looking more here at mis-spaced and mis-represented characters...if the DVLA sold you a plate, they will make it clear how it should read. You commit an offence if you disregard this and space it/adjust characters to your own preference...

[Hotcoupe]

Example "S1 LLY" would read just that on the tax disc, but may read "S1LLY" if the owner has mis-spaced it on the vehicle. (thats an example btw, I don't even know if that plate exists)


Yep it exists, you'll find it on Frank Whiteley's car.
Frank is the Chief Cunstable of Hertforshire Police and the ACPO Lead.

*Apologies for the spelling*

PS. No disrespect to Gavin.

[Gavin]

OMG...out of all the plates I could have used in an example, I pick the Chief Constable of Hertfordshire Constabulary :eek:

lol

PS None taken

[BMW JAY84]

Excellent choice for example Gavin ;)

PS what car do you have think you should post some pics :)

Not of a squad car though :)

[Y1 4MER]

Boys wot about us guys with NO plate fixed to the front of r rides (sittin on dash LOL ha ha wer gettin fucked....

[TOO 4NOY]

Im doomed my plate is mis spelt however they didnt say anything when i got pulled last time

I hope they let me off damn im scared :(


change your plate for a while bro. i just changed mine back to standard with normal spacing. thanks for sharing this info guys. however i got pulled the other day by trafic officers about my black plates and they just said to change it. i got limo tints all around and i put my front two windows down so they couldnt see the tints, but they didnt even notice. they checked the tires, lights n stuff but they let me off. phew... guess everyone is going to change their plates so its legal. the people who have tints jus do what i did and you should b fine unless they stopped you for the specific reason of tints.

[Y1 4MER]

No being funny but even if F1 was spaced "F .... 1" regardless you can only read it 1 way F1 yes or no...

[adood84]

No being funny but even if F1 was spaced "F .... 1" regardless you can only read it 1 way F1 yes or no...

actually no,

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/1/29/9080129.012/9080129.012.1L.jpg

[mystic sport]

My plate is M3 YPT and is spaced exactly as M3 Y PT, so one space between the Y and P. ANPR has no issues. As I said earlier, Red Ken managed to track me when I forgot to pay the congestion charge and I have been through a couple of industrial estates where a few flash companies have number plate recognition systems where it will say something like 'IBM welcomes M3 YPT'. Notice that it drops the spacing ;) . So yes, I am breaking road regs and hence the law but IMHO it would have to take a police officer on a bad day to drop a £30 fine in my lap or even pull me. All the letters are regulation font and size, no misplaced screws etc, it is purely this one space that is wrong.

[Mehmet]

So what if you get a fine, im not letting any "COP" put me off my modding, no matter if its wheels or a plate.

Next time you go to Heathrow/Gatwick look at your Reg number on the parking ticket, even that spells a NORMAL plate wrong, the government are greedy bastards, just wanna make more and more money full stop

[Moe]

Heathrow airport never spells my plate right im going to put a standard plate on for a while i think

[scorcher]

Welcome to the forum Gavin, and thanks for the facts :)

If I were to trim the left and right sides of my plate an inch or two, would that be reason to pull me? As you can see from my sig my reg is quite short.

[XKaLiBaR]

My plate is M3 YPT and is spaced exactly as M3 Y PT, so one space between the Y and P. ANPR has no issues. As I said earlier, Red Ken managed to track me when I forgot to pay the congestion charge and I have been through a couple of industrial estates where a few flash companies have number plate recognition systems where it will say something like 'IBM welcomes M3 YPT'. Notice that it drops the spacing ;) . So yes, I am breaking road regs and hence the law but IMHO it would have to take a police officer on a bad day to drop a £30 fine in my lap or even pull me. All the letters are regulation font and size, no misplaced screws etc, it is purely this one space that is wrong.

here here

by the way, whats the meaning of the plate with the Y spaced out?

[donut]

Oh dear, what a nanny state we're becoming. My plates are completely regulation with the exception of a single missing space... I.e D9NUT - ANPR also has no issues with my plate!

[Styler]

Minor spacing issues should be ok. I have had my plate on cars since 2004 with no problems, except for MOT day. But i have a seperate set of plates for MOT, with the correct spacing :)

[XKaLiBaR]

Minor spacing issues should be ok. I have had my plate on cars since 2004 with no problems, except for MOT day. But i have a seperate set of plates for MOT, with the correct spacing :)
hehe, i didnt need to change mine for mot ;)

[Gavin]

Welcome to the forum Gavin, and thanks for the facts :)

If I were to trim the left and right sides of my plate an inch or two, would that be reason to pull me? As you can see from my sig my reg is quite short.

No probs, just stating the law as it is and how we enforce it....


Have a look at this, simplified for all to see :

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/v796.pdf



Scorcher - it is technically an offence, although I can't for the life of me find the specific bit of legislation and sub-section....

Looking at your sig though it looks almost "standard" so you would be unlucky to be stopped (may be it's the photo angle)....saying that I see you are in S.Croydon....look out because I know for a fact our traffic unit out of Godstone hunt the major routes and routinely stop vehicles for index offences (and report!)

[mystic sport]

here here

by the way, whats the meaning of the plate with the Y spaced out?

My initials are PT and when I first got the M3 people who thought there were minor difference between a 330i and M3 would often say "why the M3 then Paul?" so it was just a little bit of personal humour. So really to me it stands for 'M3, why Paul?' Obviously means jack to anyone else and to be honest I wouldn't have an issue with spacing it properly.

[scorcher]

Scorcher - it is technically an offence, although I can't for the life of me find the specific bit of legislation and sub-section....

Looking at your sig though it looks almost "standard" so you would be unlucky to be stopped (may be it's the photo angle)....saying that I see you are in S.Croydon....look out because I know for a fact our traffic unit out of Godstone hunt the major routes and routinely stop vehicles for index offences (and report!)

I have got legal plates, with the correct spacing as I'm such a good boy :)

Just wish they could be a little less wide. :rolleyes:

I was nabbed on the M25 at Jn6 by the Godstone boys for having illegal tints on the front windows of my old 528, which had been done by the previous owner - was just told to get them changed ASAP, which I did. No presenter or fine. But they did try to convince me that the CF digits on my plate were illegal - weird, as they had the BS mark on? :confused: Oh well.

[Chaos]

Well isn't this topic de jour... :rolleyes:

Drove up the M11 yesterday, the first time I'd done more than about 10 miles in the E46, and I must have had a STOP ME AND BUY ONE sign on my roof. Amongst the various and frankly trivial shit I had thrown at me was.....number plates, every single time. Mine are 100% legal with the exception of a font change. It's a subtle change, bit like going from Arial to Verdana in Word, but it's not the legal font nonetheless.

Every. Single. Copper. Mentioned it. :mad: Two of them confirmed the info about the press-down (although starting next Monday not this Monday) and here's the lowdown: They photo your plate, send it to DVLA, and it gets recorded. 3 strikes and they pull your plate, no warning, nothing - you're on a Q plate from then and your car's worth jack from that point.

Didn't piss and moan, everything I got stopped for was fair game, I only got ticketed for one of the four different offences (including speeding) and the Traffic who took it upon himself to rip half of my tints off without even a tint tester was actually a really decent chap to talk to (even if he was a prick for doing that himself rather than letting me do it properly) and not at all arsey like most of the Traffics seem to be these days. That's fair policing in my eyes, and probably helped by the fact that I didn't act like a jerk about being stopped and just played it straight with them (even if I didn't always agree with what they said/did) despite being stopped more times than a black cab on new years eve (not their fault, I'm sure....well it better hadn't have been :p).

So, yes, take it seriously. Very seriously. I'd recommend taking your plates off for a month and at least letting the heat die down on that subject. The consequences, whilst fucked up and typical of the neo-nazi state of some of the recent high-level decisions Les Bleus seem to be making, just aren't worth it.

[Moe]

Im going to be changing them over know, i don't want my plate revoked at all

[MEGA]

fucking hell Dan..

Is that pulled over 3 times then Q? or just 3 pictures then Q. If its the latter then thats actually terrifying news....

[BigFas]

Or be a baller and get a plate which means something "out of the box"

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j137/BigFas/Fas1.jpg

[Styler]

That sucks Chaos! I know they the write to pull you over for the offenses but ripping your tints off is a bit over the top!

I'm gonna keep my plate on for now, untill i get pulled. Then i will change it over, i'm hoping mine will be ok.

Or be a baller and get a plate which means something "out of the box"
What about your tints? (or don't you have any)

[BigFas]

I have tints, but not dark enough to cause issue. My old next door neighbour was a policeman, he said as long as they can see into a car, it "should" be ok, and there's zero issue with seeing into my car

[alexsh1]

Fuck, I was about to tint my car so that nothing can be seen from outside.

[Styler]

Fuck, I was about to tint my car so that nothing can be seen from outside.
Lucky that you haven't done it yet. My local place, which is very good wont tint front windows fullstop.

[Chaos]

Or be a baller and get a plate which means something "out of the box"

You know, with your psychic powers, how much I was thinking 'smartass!' to myself cos I KNEW you'd come back with that line when I told you! :D

Dave, as it was explained to me and I understood it, it's 3 photos. So you can get stopped 3 times in one day, in 3 different constabulary areas, and you've got a Q plate coming....

[Styler]

I have tints, but not dark enough to cause issue. My old next door neighbour was a policeman, he said as long as they can see into a car, it "should" be ok, and there's zero issue with seeing into my car
But i depends on who stops you. If you get stopped by a copper like Chaos did, he may not give a shi* that he can still see you and may just rip your tints off. I read some where that factory tints are all that they will allow for front windows.

[Chaos]

My tints are 35% (think yours are too Fas?) and the guy said the only reasons he didn't ticket me were cos a) I was being a decent guy and b) cos he was an Essex traffic and we'd just gone over the Cambs border. I decided not to ask him how he planned on dealing with the complaint if he ticketed me without using a tint meter, as I thought it detrimental to his leniency and I just didn't fancy an argument... :o

Oddly, the guy was actually very nice, even shook my hand afterwards and wished me a safe journey. He was into my tints before I realised he was actually going to tear them off, and told me he was doing it to make sure I'd have to remove them (which I will do, right before putting some back on again :p), I just wish that he'd asked me to remove them first so that I could have done it myself.

[Gavin]

confirmed the info about the press-down (although starting next Monday not this Monday)


So, yes, take it seriously. Very seriously.


And I've just seen a briefing sheet for this crack down....

[Chaos]

Can't find my original damn plates either :mad:, guess the vert is staying on the driveway for a few weeks... :rolleyes:

[Vin]

Lucky that you haven't done it yet. My local place, which is very good wont tint front windows fullstop.

funny you said that. most places do say that nowadays.

however my car was done at Pentagon Glass in Acton. they put on their lightest tint on my front windows and said if im stopped by police, mention their name. if i wanted darker they still said yes but i have to sign a discaimer, it does looks darker than i imagined, it being the lightest tint

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n315/vinothwoz/DSCF1021.jpg

[Styler]

Pentagon are supposed to be very good.

It does look dark, but that probably because its a dull day so even less light is getting in the cockit. In the summer it will look fine, hope police dont give you any hassle.

[Hotcoupe]

Gavin Quote:

And I've just seen a briefing sheet for this crack down....

Gavin, I'd like to think this crackdown is more to do with a serious attempt at getting untaxed and uninsured cars off the road rather then a revenue gathering exercise on behalf of Gordon Brown.

I've heard that all Police vehicles are being equipped with ANPR camera's, which could just about explain the number plate crackdown,is this the case?

[MEGA]

Freaking insane. I don't know what else to say.

My plate will talk by itself but I still wanted to remove the space inbetween... Thats all I wanted to do. Based on what styler and scorcher have said I guess this should be OK but I'm not sure?

[Chaos]

Dude, my spacing is perfect, my plate is the right size, everything is bang on bar a slightly different font. I still got stopped and it was enough for him to bollock me over before he even got around to mentioning that I was doing 90ish when his beefy little blue Volvo came past me. I'll send you a pic with my plate on it if you want - you'll see just how trivial the infringement was (although still illegal, going by black and white, which is fair).

[dxb335d]

Just stick on old plates (correctly spaced) for a while.

[Aaftab]

I was going to get some nice new plates made up with illegal spacing, but the recent news has got me thinking. This new crackdown on illegal plates - will it be a permanent feature with the police of will the novelty wear off?

[Mah_c180]

If they get somewhere with it, it will be permanent

Just like the Speed limit it was a trail of 70mph and now its been there since 1970's

[Styler]

I guess if these ANPR cameras work off exact font size and shape, so if your fonts a are slightly different or your spacing is random then it will not recognise the characters and therefore the reg.

I'm gonna stick with mine for now and see what happens. I'm sure a ANPR camera can read mine with no problems as i have correct font and my spacing issue is after a 1, so there should be no confusion in reading the plate. But it also depends on what mood the policeman is in.

I bet i get pulled first thing tomorrow morning lol.

[mystic sport]

Shit Dan, that is messed up mate. I can understand the tug but FFS why tear into your tints like that :( . I think I am just going to order a new set of plates without the space.

[666 ACS]

I have got legal plates, with the correct spacing as I'm such a good boy :)

Just wish they could be a little less wide. :rolleyes:

I was nabbed on the M25 at Jn6 by the Godstone boys for having illegal tints on the front windows of my old 528, which had been done by the previous owner - was just told to get them changed ASAP, which I did. No presenter or fine. But they did try to convince me that the CF digits on my plate were illegal - weird, as they had the BS mark on? :confused: Oh well.

Mate

You have seen that I have cut my front down and I will probably get round to the rear at some point to.

I have no problems with mine, as it is correct letters sizes and still have the correct 11mm?? around the outside and correct spacing.

Trust me if mine were moody then I would have been stuck on my now as I have about 20-25 traffic officers look at my car everyday and they would stick there own Gran on if they could:rolleyes:

[Black Sabbath]

Gavin, I'd like to think this crackdown is more to do with a serious attempt at getting untaxed and uninsured cars off the road rather then a revenue gathering exercise on behalf of Gordon Brown.

Sorry for the language but dont make me fucking laugh,its an excuse to make more money out of the 100% road legal owners like ourselves.We are all insured,hell most of pay a premium because of our mods,unlike the moronic fuckwits who drive around with nothing at all.Ultimately we as insured drivers pay for their couldn't give a toss attitude,and this exercise is nothing more than a revenue raiser for that useless twat Brown.Nothing gives me more pleasure than loading a morons car on my truck,and listening to them bleat and moan like stuck pigs because their illegal mode of transport is going to end up in the crusher oh deep joy.The sad thing is a fair proportion of them reoffend because their moronic mates get the cars out for them with their insurance,although a new clause is being inserted in policies,"any car unless seized by an official body" Another loophole closed ;) I expect when this little "goldmine" runs its course the next major crackdown will be excess tyre sizes are you putting down to much rubber or is your cars induction kit using more than its fair share of air when you accelerate,you heard it here first :rolleyes:

[TOO 4NOY]

oh fuck. i had 20%tints all round and a week ago i got another layer of tint put on top of it, 20% again so its propa dark. im gonna get fucked if i get pulled. im going to a good boy for the month:rolleyes: or just keep my front 2 windows down all the time lol even if its snowing, im going to have the full blast heaters on.

[Chaos]

If they get somewhere with it, it will be permanent

Just like the Speed limit it was a trail of 70mph and now its been there since 1970's
1965. ;)

It's permanent now, has been for years, there's no trial period involved here. I expect that when the next crackdown appears it'll melt into the background, but that won't be for a while looking at recent history.

[Moe]

Im looking for the standard plates i had for my plate just going to stick them on as soon as

I cant be bothered getting stopped done for tints plus they always search my fucking car

And i agree with Black Sabbath i probs been stopped more then a boy racer and yett they dont have to as the can check i have insurance from running my plate through their system takes the piss i pay more than a dodgy cars worth for my insurance

[huzi7]

my mates always carries his standard plates in the car. when he gets pulled he uses the excuse of going to the nearest supermarket o. r something to get double sided tape to put them on. He has been getting away with this for the past year! LOL

He has been pulled about 20 times for the plate!

[Moe]

1965. ;)

It's permanent now, has been for years, there's no trial period involved here. I expect that when the next crackdown appears it'll melt into the background, but that won't be for a while looking at recent history.


Explain... sorry i jus dont get the post so you think it wont melt away quickly???

[Black Sabbath]

Explain... sorry i jus dont get the post so you think it wont melt away quickly???
Because they will be taking too much money to fund useful road projects like, channelling the money to "one legged lesbian single parent groups" or "how to change a lightbulb" classes,you know the sort of thing I mean :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Moe]

Because they will be taking too much money to fund useful road projects like, channelling the money to "one legged lesbian single parent groups" or "how to change a lightbulb" classes,you know the sort of thing I mean :mad: :mad: :mad:

Ahhh i see, however maybe after like a month or two they will calm down, i have seen some seriously fcuked about plates driving around

One my cousins gets stopped everyweek litratually for his black and silver plates, they conviscate the plate then he just buys another from wembley market on sunday lol

[Styler]

Because they will be taking too much money to fund useful road projects like, channelling the money to "one legged lesbian single parent groups" or "how to change a lightbulb" classes,you know the sort of thing I mean :mad: :mad: :mad:
Oi!! I know a one legged lesbian single parent!!! :mad: They need all the help they can get, lol

[Black Sabbath]

Oi!! I know a one legged lesbian single parent!!! :mad: They need all the help they can get, lol
Not at my expense they dont ;) ;) I dont suppose she's any good at an arse kicking competition either is she :p

[Styler]

Not at my expense they dont ;) ;) I dont suppose she's any good at an arse kicking competition either is she :p
LMAO! You would be surprised!

[Chaos]

Ahhh i see, however maybe after like a month or two they will calm down, i have seen some seriously fcuked about plates driving around

One my cousins gets stopped everyweek litratually for his black and silver plates, they conviscate the plate then he just buys another from wembley market on sunday lol
Yeah, I'd expect it to calm down when they go for tints or whatever next. Will always be something though. Personally I think anyone with enough taste and class to buy a black car should be left the fuck alone, but hey. :(

Your cousin's going to have to buy his weekly plate using the letter Q after his next 3 pulls. ;)

[Moe]

Yerr i know, trust me though all my cousins driving flash cars have dodgy number plates or no plates at all at the front

[Styler]

i have been tempted to remove my reg from the front, because E46s looks so much better without the number plate. But after hearing all the this hassle going around, no chance.

[Chaos]

I did that last ime I went to the Ring, totally forgot coming back and I got my botty spanked by Les Feds at the tunnel check-in... :o

[Black Sabbath]

I got my botty spanked by Les Feds at the tunnel check-in... :oYes I was just unsure why it took so long for you to get the plate from the boot of the car,then I realised all that running around shouting "catch me if you can" wasn't a diversionary tactic after all, it was an invite :rolleyes: :p

[BMW JAY84]

Sorry for the language but dont make me fucking laugh,its an excuse to make more money out of the 100% road legal owners like ourselves.We are all insured,hell most of pay a premium because of our mods,unlike the moronic fuckwits who drive around with nothing at all.Ultimately we as insured drivers pay for their couldn't give a toss attitude,and this exercise is nothing more than a revenue raiser for that useless twat Brown.Nothing gives me more pleasure than loading a morons car on my truck,and listening to them bleat and moan like stuck pigs because their illegal mode of transport is going to end up in the crusher oh deep joy.The sad thing is a fair proportion of them reoffend because their moronic mates get the cars out for them with their insurance,although a new clause is being inserted in policies,"any car unless seized by an official body" Another loophole closed ;) I expect when this little "goldmine" runs its course the next major crackdown will be excess tyre sizes are you putting down to much rubber or is your cars induction kit using more than its fair share of air when you accelerate,you heard it here first :rolleyes:

Couldn't of put it better myself Mark. :mad:

[Mah_c180]

1965. ;)

It's permanent now, has been for years, there's no trial period involved here. I expect that when the next crackdown appears it'll melt into the background, but that won't be for a while looking at recent history.

Thanks for the information.

I new its around them years. I heard there was a trial period but o well its fixed for ever now.

[TOO 4NOY]

i got stopped 2day by fed but over the stupidest reason lol they think my car is too low:eek: wtf is wrong with them. i have a black plate at the front and limo tints all round and they didnt say a word about that. all they said 2 me is that my car is too low and alloys are too big. 1st of all, my car has facotry fitted 18" mv2's and it had m sport suspension factory fitted. how can they say that? i argued with them for 10mins and then let me go. lol these fuckin pigs piss me off

[Aaftab]

Thats fu*ked man!! You should have told them this is how it comes out of the factory from BMW!

[BMW JAY84]

That is truly ridiculous. Its times like that you want airbags fitted so you could properly deck it LOL

[XKaLiBaR]

i got stopped 2day by fed but over the stupidest reason lol they think my car is too low:eek: wtf is wrong with them. i have a black plate at the front and limo tints all round and they didnt say a word about that. all they said 2 me is that my car is too low and alloys are too big. 1st of all, my car has facotry fitted 18" mv2's and it had m sport suspension factory fitted. how can they say that? i argued with them for 10mins and then let me go. lol these fuckin pigs piss me off

what area did you get pulled over?

[speed]

Idiots, so does that mean they'd pull lambo's, rarri's etc for being to low :confused:

[Styler]

the policeman was probably just bored and thought he would try and be productive and take chance in stopping you and see what you would do Probably have to report back to station to show he had done something during his shift etc.

It must have been frustrating and a pain.

[XKaLiBaR]

i didnt know ther was a law for your car being too low :confused:

[mr sideways]

i didnt know ther was a law for your car being too low :confused:
there cant be a law for cars being too low and having big wheels surely!
that would mean exotic cars would be ileagal from the factory:confused:

[TOO 4NOY]

i was stopped in harrow by the police van. 6 officers jumped out of it. i thought its some drugs search or something. lol but police these days take the piss. i had my black plates and tints and what pissed me off is they didnt mention any of them and straight away said my car is too low. but there is a law which states thal your car has to be of a certain ride hight or they can PG9 the car. police are w*nkers (no offence if your a fed) but they got nothing better to do. go catch some real criminals.

[speed]

Did the police that stopped tell you the car has to be a certain ride height or have you got that info from somewhere official, i find it very hard to believe.

Quick search on google found this:


Is there any legislation concerning the ride height of vehicles or the allowed height of speed bumps?

VCA is unaware of any legislation regarding either of these matters. You could try contacting your local council highways department. Alternatively you can try e-mailing the Highways Agency on ha_info@highways.gsi.gov.uk or visit their website at www.highways.gov.uk (links to another site).

Taken from: http://www.vca.gov.uk/vehicletype/faqs-type-approval.asp

So i'd say as usual the police are 99% full of shit.

[Moe]

Thats shit man, police in harrow do raise a lot of issues out of anything they really need to catch real criminal, i hate when i get stopped search.

[Chaos]

I'm 99% sure that if the police deem the car not roadworthy then they can stop it regardless. Sounds like they used a limp excuse to check out the car there, but I guess few people will challenge them for abusing their rights a little. If they catch someone with a tool or some powder for every 5 people stopped then I don't mind being one of the 5 frankly, although yeah I can see how 10 minutes of justifying the deed could get old REAL fast..

[Doc Matt]

i was stopped in harrow by the police van. 6 officers jumped out of it. i thought its some drugs search or something. lol but police these days take the piss. i had my black plates and tints and what pissed me off is they didnt mention any of them and straight away said my car is too low. but there is a law which states thal your car has to be of a certain ride hight or they can PG9 the car. police are w*nkers (no offence if your a fed) but they got nothing better to do. go catch some real criminals.

As the UK terror alert is still on SEVERE (One less than the mo-fo CRITICAL), cops on traffic duty stop loads of low cars because, wait for it, bombs weigh a ton and sag cars down like mandy in the sand. This sound rediculous but its true :o

It wouldn't be in the publics interest to prosecute a car for being too low unless it made the car less safe to the driver and the general public.


police are w*nkers

Remember, if you got home and found 5 hoodies in your house, they'd be the first people you would call.;)


go catch some real criminals They were on traffic duty, thats their job. The others are out there doing other stuff too ;)

Nevertheless I wholeheartedly agree traffic officers are anal butt holes though. Known as 'black rats' to other normal bobbies as they would shit on everyone and wouldn't bat an eyelid when prosecuting their own wifes or daughters. :mad:

Also, with all this terror shit going on, it seems anyone non-white seems to get stopped or picked on all the time. This would severley piss me off but not wanting to get in a debate about this last sentence its life in todays environment. :(

Anyway, if the police really were 'wankers' they would have done you for your plates so you should be pleased not angry, lol :D

[Black Sabbath]

Had this conversation with our local beat bobby earlier,they can stop and search without reason.If you add to that a modified car/ number plate or extreme tints its recipe for a stop I guess.As you said Dan,yes it would be annoying but if it takes some of the morons off the streets so be it,I've seen cases of people being stopped for having no brake lights which has led to cars being seized for having no insurance,so every cloud has a silver lining :)

[speed]

I'm sorry but the majority of peoples attitude towards the police is negative so you would think that there's a reason for this somewhere. Maybe its because they waste so much of the general motorists time for so called minor offences or alot of the time because they just seem bored or have to justify their job somehow.

Maybe also its becuase most of the time when we have to deal with the police they are unhelpful in every way. I can only speak for myself but i've been stopped god knows how many times, just last week i was stopped for no insurance. Did i have insurance, yes but it wasn't registered on there database. So was i pissed off when they kept me hanging around for 15 minutes when i was meant to be picking up my 11 year old daughter, damn right i was. How about being stuck in a cell for 36 hours because they sent a speeding summons to the wrong address so i didn't turn up in court, my fault, i think not.

Ok so look at the other side when you actually need there help. You get up in the morning and some tosser has thrown black paint all over your white car. Phone the police and what is there answer, 'here's a crime reference number go phone your insurance company'. Lets say your bikes been nicked, will they go and try and find out who's nicked it, no they just give you a crime reference number.

Sorry for the rant but i've not had one good experience of the police so until i do i'm affraid i'll continue to agree with people that call them wankers, pricks etc

[Black Sabbath]

Hmmmm not sure why you would consider "no insurance" a minor offence,I understand you did have it but suppose you hadn't?Plenty of people in bigger and better cars than you haven't got it ;) .Ask me how I know,because I pick them up every single day,day in day out.What you want is a Police force that is there when you are in trouble,but dont want to be troubled by them.No excuses for what happened when you got stuck in a cell but ultimately the courts would have issued the warrant,so blame has to be attached there as well.I think Matt summed it up earlier,pricks wankers but they will be your first port of call in an emergency,if you tell me different you would be lying.Plenty of people on here and other forums have, at some time or another,been stopped for committing traffic offences and got away with it by being polite and accepted the bollocking.Most of the Police I deal with seem to take the view that if you approach them full of attitude,you will get it back big time.

[speed]

I agree that you get back the attitude from them as you give them. Which is why i'm generally polite and as helpful as i can be when i do get stopped, doesn't mean i'm not pissed off about the fact i have better things to be doing at that point in time.

I was trying to point out that when something does go wrong and we do need them they are generally not bothered in the slightest. For example when my car had the paint thrown on it, bike got nicked i would expect them to at least try and catch who did it and not just give me a crime reference number:mad:

The one thing i have learnt is that if you want justice to be done then don't even bother involving the police, deal with it yourself.

[Gavin]

End of the day we do a job and tbh anyone in a position of power attracts criticism....

That's just how it is...

People call us names, lose their cool when we stick them on....but we're doing it because society as a whole WANTS us to be doing it...

Why don't we carry firearms in the UK as standard? Because we police with the consent of the [overwhelming majority] public...



And yes no insurance/driving whilst using a handheld mobile device/defective or illegal vehicle parts etc... might all seem "minor" at the time...

But look at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7222690.stm




These are offences for a reason people....

[Gavin]

I agree that you get back the attitude from them as you give them. Which is why i'm generally polite and as helpful as i can be when i do get stopped, doesn't mean i'm not pissed off about the fact i have better things to be doing at that point in time.

I was trying to point out that when something does go wrong and we do need them they are generally not bothered in the slightest. For example when my car had the paint thrown on it, bike got nicked i would expect them to at least try and catch who did it and not just give me a crime reference number:mad:

The one thing i have learnt is that if you want justice to be done then don't even bother involving the police, deal with it yourself.


Sorry you feel like that...

But all the officers I know are hard working and pro-active...It's a real sense of achievement when you truly help people and see their reaction....

At times we struggle through lack of resources (it's amazing how resource intensive the slightest offence we take on our case load can be...)

[Black Sabbath]

I was trying to point out that when something does go wrong and we do need them they are generally not bothered in the slightest. For example when my car had the paint thrown on it, bike got nicked i would expect them to at least try and catch who did it and not just give me a crime reference number:mad:
The one thing i have learnt is that if you want justice to be done then don't even bother involving the police, deal with it yourself.
See that to me cannot be justified,if you didn't see who threw the paint,how can they?Would you rather they wasted hours taking statements from you on a fruitless case or at least attempted to put resources into solving more serious crimes?I know which I'd rather have.Shed thefts have been going on in our area for a while now but I know for a fact they putting more resources into catching the moronic fuckwits doing it,but they cant patrol every house in every street 24/7 can they!I accept that and we all have a duty to report anything suspicious but most of the time we cant be arsed can we!

[TOO 4NOY]

End of the day we do a job and tbh anyone in a position of power attracts criticism....

That's just how it is...

People call us names, lose their cool when we stick them on....but we're doing it because society as a whole WANTS us to be doing it...

Why don't we carry firearms in the UK as standard? Because we police with the consent of the [overwhelming majority] public...



And yes no insurance/driving whilst using a handheld mobile device/defective or illegal vehicle parts etc... might all seem "minor" at the time...

But look at:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7222690.stm




These are offences for a reason people....




so doing your job is stopping someone PURELY BECUASE HIS CVAR IS TOO LOW? thats y i hate the po po. they think their big when their in uniform. they think they own the streets and stop anyone and give them grief without a legit reason. if he stopped me becuase of my plates and tints then thats fine. but to say my car is low and arguing with me over it is fcuking piss take.

[Black Sabbath]

so doing your job is stopping someone PURELY BECUASE HIS CVAR IS TOO LOW? thats y i hate the po po. they think their big when their in uniform. they think they own the streets and stop anyone and give them grief without a legit reason. if he stopped me becuase of my plates and tints then thats fine. but to say my car is low and arguing with me over it is fcuking piss take.
Oh FFS :rolleyes:

[alexsh1]

I do not mind to be pulled as I have nothing illigal - no tints and no dodgy number plates. So if a police officer thinks that my car is too low, fine, I can produce a recent MOT certificate. If they want to check themselves then ok I am not gonna try to stop them. Its their duty.

Its a shame though that police resources are wasted on people like us and not on fucking criminals, drug dealers, etc.

[speed]

See that to me cannot be justified,if you didn't see who threw the paint,how can they?Would you rather they wasted hours taking statements from you on a fruitless case or at least attempted to put resources into solving more serious crimes?I know which I'd rather have.Shed thefts have been going on in our area for a while now but I know for a fact they putting more resources into catching the moronic fuckwits doing it,but they cant patrol every house in every street 24/7 can they!I accept that and we all have a duty to report anything suspicious but most of the time we cant be arsed can we!

They could at least have come out and taken a statement or done something about it. There is a car showroom over the road with cctv, why not go and ask them to view it. What i'm saying is that they could at least have made some effort.

Are you telling me that if i jump in my car now drive to the police station, slash a few police car tyres, throw a bit of paint on the cars and smash a window but leave before anyone sees anything that they will just say 'oh well we didn't see who did it, lets just forget it and file an insurance claim'.

[BigFas]

so doing your job is stopping someone PURELY BECUASE HIS CVAR IS TOO LOW? thats y i hate the po po. they think their big when their in uniform. they think they own the streets and stop anyone and give them grief without a legit reason. if he stopped me becuase of my plates and tints then thats fine. but to say my car is low and arguing with me over it is fcuking piss take.

When they stopped you, did they call you a cunt? Did they call you a paki? Did they insult your mother? I'm guessing not. So stop with the fucking name calling. I've had nothing but good experiences with the police. When my house got burgled, they actually caught the fucker who did it.

I get pulled over about once a year, you're polite to them, they're polite back. Do a search, there's a story of me getting pulled over by two vans full of armed police at heathrow. Again, Nothing but respect shown to me.

I can imagine a scroat like you getting pulled over and giving it lip from the get go and you (and any other chav - yes, I called you a chav) deserve everything you fucking get.

The amount of wankers I see get pulled on programs like Road Wars (which is shot in Slough BTW), the police show ridiculous amount of restraint in the face of abuse and all of their buttons get pushed. I couldn't be a cop as I'd want to smash every fucker that talked to me like that in the face. Police should get every ounce of respect, they deserve it.

Like matt said. You get fucked over in the street. They're the first you're going to call. I wish their was a central database of wank behaviour, so that they can cross reference the abuse the receive, that way, when you need them most, they can tell you to go fuck yourself.

[Juber]

Good point you have Fas & Black Sabbath!

I get pulled by the police in my town on average 2 times a month, its a normal thing for me now, and like Fas said being polite to them means they have no reason why thy cant be polite to you.

I reallly couldnt give a monkeys how many times police stop me, at the end of the day they are checking if my cars legal (for safety & law reasons) checking its not stolen (which i really apprecieate if police always stop my car just incase its not me thats driving it) and at the end of the day they get paid to do all of this its their job.

Its the ones that are mouthy that get the stick from the police :rolleyes:

[MistaSmiff]

Sometimes I think they pull you over just to admire your car, I know a few police officers who are heavily into modding cars :p

[alexsh1]

Fas, very harsh message,but I agree with your point.
Generally, I always try to be polite to the police as ITS THEIR DUTY TO STOP/PULL AND SEARCH. They get paid to do this job. We all have to take it with a respect cos if something happends to you, the first thing you are gonna do is to call the police.

[Aaftab]

Fas has a valid point. If you ever watch road wars, pretty much all of the drivers that pulled over are very difficult to handle beacue they start mouthing off and showing lots of un needed attitude which makes the job of the police a lot harder to do. I dont think police will stop you just for the sake of stopping you, well at least not in slough.

[speed]

I'm not posting on this topic again as it is just going round in circles but the point i was trying to get across is that, i wouldn't mind the stop checks etc if they always treated the driver with respect which they dont, at least not round here. And yes they are the first person you call when there is a problem but in my experience they have never come up with any results and i have to do thier job for them.

[mho]

I agree with Fas, they're just doing their job when stopping you. I much rather them stop people to check rather than let everyone go and only stop the obvious as most of the criminals are not obvious. If me getting stopped more often means getting more uninsured drivers off the road then so be it, I'd prefer to be stopped than to be hit by an uninsured driver.
I personally have nothing to hide, I don't drink and drive, I don't have anything illegal in or on the car, so once I'm stopped all they ask for is personal details to cross reference on their database. I do think that if you are professional towards them they are professional towards you too.
One time I was driving my girlfriend home in the middle on the night, I had my PJ on lol and on the way home I got stopped. The police confirmed my details on the system and asked for my driving license, I explained to them that I was just dropping of my GF, wearing my PJs so didn't have my wallet on me, they were understanding and let me go. No doubt that if I was more negative towards them they would have given me a producer.
Another memorable experience was when I got stopped with my fogs on and they have another Michael Ho on their system who was wanted, not a very nice guy, been in jail, history of robberies, GBH and the rest. The police were given a description of his appearance over the radio and thought he looked very like me, they thought I had a scar on my face :s I told them that I'm not this guy and that I don't have this scar you seem to notice lol. Then they let me go. Again if I was more rude here maybe they would have been more suspicious and it would have been a lot more hassle.

[BigFas]

Fas, very harsh message

Which bit did you find harsh? Just trying to get my point across in a language that a kid brought up on a diet of gangsta hip-hop pretending he's a thug and that the world owes him everything can understand.



I'm not posting on this topic again as it is just going round in circles but the point i was trying to get across is that, i wouldn't mind the stop checks etc if they always treated the driver with respect which they dont, at least not round here. And yes they are the first person you call when there is a problem but in my experience they have never come up with any results and i have to do thier job for them.


What do you want the police to do? Stop every car and person in the world to find the culprit? It doesn't work like that. IF there is evidence, they will take it. It doesn't get simpler than that.

When my house was burgled, i got two civilians who came over to take down details. The SOCO in the area was maxed out, I got a call to say would it be possible to bring any disturbed items to them, so I took time out of my day, took stuff down to her, she ran dust over the items in the car park, lifted a print and did her job.

Now I was well within my rights telling them to eff-off and come to MY house where the burglary occured and do their job properly, but I walk around with my eyes open and know there are limitations on the system. Work within the limitations and live a good life.

I live in the Thames Valley Police area and as far as I'm concerned, they kick butt and I've got nothing but respect for them. I can't comment on your constabulary, I don't know the full circumstances, but I bet if I sat you down with them, they would have a different version of events.

[huzi7]

I used to get pulled quite when I passed cos I didn't look 17! I used to have a laugh with them whilst checking my details and what not.

Yes at times you think they pulled you for the sake of it and have nothing better to do but they are just doing there jobs.

[Moe]

I just put my standard sized plates on just getting ready for the crack down i really dont want to loose my plate, i will put the custom ones back on maybe in a month or two,

Maybe have my plates on for the meet though

[XKaLiBaR]

some of you are a bit harsh against the police officers. just like any race in the world, none are all perfect and not all of them are useless. do you realise how many times i have been stopped for speeding and gotten away with it scott free. why? because i was polite, and apolegised. I have had police officers stairing at my number plates, and they still havent stopped me yet.
but saying that, i have had assholes stopped me a few times. nevertheless, 90% of them are really cool.

ever considered that they stopped you for a joke lol? they arent stupid, they would never stopped someone for car being too low, and not notice black plates and tints.

[TOO 4NOY]

[QUOTE=BigFas]When they stopped you, did they call you a cunt? Did they call you a paki? Did they insult your mother? I'm guessing not. So stop with the fucking name calling. I've had nothing but good experiences with the police. When my house got burgled, they actually caught the fucker who did it.


I can imagine a scroat like you getting pulled over and giving it lip from the get go and you (and any other chav - yes, I called you a chav) deserve everything you fucking get.

QUOTE]


you must be a scroat, and i didnt give them lip. thats your own experience with the feds. dont compare yourself to me. and who said anythinkg about calling me a paki? :confused:

[BigFas]

[quote=BigFas]When they stopped you, did they call you a cunt? Did they call you a paki? Did they insult your mother? I'm guessing not. So stop with the fucking name calling. I've had nothing but good experiences with the police. When my house got burgled, they actually caught the fucker who did it.


I can imagine a scroat like you getting pulled over and giving it lip from the get go and you (and any other chav - yes, I called you a chav) deserve everything you fucking get.

[QUOTE]


you must be a scroat, and i didnt give them lip. thats your own experience with the feds. dont compare yourself to me. and who said anythinkg about calling me a paki? :confused:

Talk to me when you understand basic comprehension. Until then go live off your mummy's money

[Styler]

lets cool it lads.

[MistaSmiff]

lets cool it lads.

^^ what he said :D

[Doc Matt]

If I could end this thread on a lighter note... there is this fit and i mean FIT, blonde officer around my way and I can't wait till she follows me as i'm gonna crash or something just so she can arrest my ass. :D

Mmm, a woman in uniform :cool:

[Moe]

LOL i think that was needed Doc to lighten the mood

[MistaSmiff]

If I could end this thread on a lighter note... there is this fit and i mean FIT, blonde officer around my way

Mmm, a woman in uniform :cool:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41D9Y26Y3SL._SS500_.jpg
:D :D :D

[Mah_c180]

:D
If I could end this thread on a lighter note... there is this fit and i mean FIT, blonde officer around my way and I can't wait till she follows me as i'm gonna crash or something just so she can arrest my ass. :D

Mmm, a woman in uniform :cool:


Funny guy :D :D

[TOO 4NOY]

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Talk to me when you understand basic comprehension. Until then go live off your mummy's money


STOP HATING . . . mummy's or granny's money makes no difference to you so just do your own thing mate.

[BigFas]

STOP HATING . . . mummy's or granny's money makes no difference to you so just do your own thing mate.

If you talk as good as you write, I'll save you a job in my company cleaning the toilets.

[Mud]

If you talk as good as you write, I'll save you a job in my company cleaning the toilets.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!

[TOO 4NOY]

If you talk as good as you write, I'll save you a job in my company cleaning the toilets.


lol ok mate stop bigging yourself up. "company"? you aint the only one who has a company you know. we all can talk big. stop doing the talking and do the walking. i'll save you a job to clean my cars in our company then.

[Chaos]

You do realise that you just posted the equivalent of "I know you are, you said you are, but what I am I, nur nur nee nur nur" don't you... :rolleyes:

Anyway, as you apparently don't know when to drop the subject, the thread will have to be locked. Well done.