worth taking a shot at this CSL?

[lumus]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2003-BMW-M3-CSL-53-Reg-THE-ULTIMATE-TRACK-DAY-CAR_W0QQitemZ140127561377QQihZ004QQcategoryZ9837QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

have a looksie ^^

if you could knock down a grand or so on it its surely an absolute bargain? I know its a previous cat D... but still.

thought it might be worth a peek for some on 'ere ;)

[bigshout]

as long as it has been repaired to a high standard and comes with a approved certificate it's worth a look. Without this certificate some insurance company's won't touch it. Alot of cars like this had light damage but the costs to repair or sourcing parts might have been too much hastle so clased it as a cat D.

[SYE]

i wish.......

[markcsl]

Not cheap enough for a CAT D car really, you need to remember that you are going to want to sell it one day. Saying that, its only had one owner and the miles are low which evens it up a little.

i would need to see it, you cant even be sure the pics shown are after the accident i.e the repaired car... looking how that passenger door fits post accident I would be interested to see if they got it back.

[robinh20mrv]

sorry m8, save up and get a unbent one, it would be a nightmare to sell on again (imho)

cheers robin.

[Stock323iSaloon]

looks like just panel damage...cat D so no need for VIC check....if it was cheaper i think it'd be good price

[lumus]

well there is a 'make an offer' button, so i'm assuming he's fully expecting to be haggled, and put up a higher than you'd expect base price in preparation for that. I see its had 4 offers declined already. prob some monkeys offering 10k...

I think, in the case of a cat D damaged car, the longer you run it post-accident, the easier it will be to sell. people will be more confident buying it knowing its been running well for a couple of years since.

[Kay323]

I have bought and sold many cat c and d cars, as long as they are repaired to a good standard there is nothing wrong with them. And about selling it in the future, I don't know why people go all funny on this about loosing money because your getting it cheaper than a "non-recorded" car in the first place so when you selling it your it will only depreciate in value like a non-recorded car.

Bought a CSL when they first came out, the damage was only front bumper, but because the parts were so expensive it is recorded as CAT D, we got the bumper repaired from a firm specialising in carbon fibre. drove the car for 6 months a later sold for £6 grand less than the a non-recorded car (got my money back after 6 months of driving). This did not bother the guy, as he seen the car around the area and he brought some "professional" to inspect the car before he put down a deposit. So, seeing as this guy paid 6k less when he bought the car, he would get 6k less than a non-recorded car when he sells it....

[lee330sport]

sorry m8, save up and get a unbent one, it would be a nightmare to sell on again (imho)

cheers robin.

I agree with Robin, the whole chassis looks bent. The passenger door doesnt shut correctly and the roof has come away on the passenger side. You can pick CSLs up for around 30k now so not worth the saving IMO.

[Ash_z]

Its a nice car but the 'cat d' making me think twice, my dad thinks that at that price its not worth taking the accident repaired route but if its dropped on price then he wil think about it... you think i can get him to budge? its in SUNDERLAND!! thats 270miles away.....

[Silver]

Must been a bad accident. The part of the rear wheel is missing.

As lee says it Roof and passenger door looks off!

I give it a miss!

[Auryn]

Personally i wouldnt touch anything damaged like that, if its had a hard whack to a wheel then not only do you have suspension issues to contend with but also diffs/driveshafts/mounting points etc arent made to withstand impact so the damage may LOOK repaired but the rest isnt

[Gary]

Wouldn't touch it personally.
Not sure if it still has a BMW warranty, if it does then i imagine that they'd use this accident and potential damage it could have caused to wriggle out of any payout if something did go wrong.
The milage isn't bad, but have seen mint ones with similar mileage for £32/33k and ones with higher mileage not much more than this damaged one.

[Raja_SMGII]

When a car is recorded as Cat D it's factory warranty is nil and void however you can get a 3rd party warranty - I know this from personal experience. I bought my M3 as Cat D, I bought it in 2004, only 15k miles and fully loaded with no damage and brand new tyres for £25,500 when other similar models were retailing for £32,500 with no SatNav so that was a saving of £7000 which was hard to turn down - it wasn't damaged but was stolen recovered. It was recovered from an underground car-parking lot a few weeks later, but by then the owner [doctor from Croydon] who had owned it had been paid out and it was classified as Cat D.

Fortunately I managed to pull some strings and get BMW to carry out warranty work on it [i.e. engine recall work = bearings and oil change, SMG pump and relay and software, axle work, new seat base and heater and inspect the car thoroughly and all checked out… phew!]. Touch wood it's been great for near 3 years now, with only the passenger door lock failing [replaced at £50] in the past month.

With this car, I agree with Giovanni because it's been in an accident you don't know what stresses the intricate parts have sustained post accident.

I think the guy should allow a BMW dealer to look over it and compile a report on it then present this to any prospected buyers... I did enquire myself on this car and offered my own as p/x but he wasn’t having it – says Cat D cars are hard to shift :D

[SpeedTrap]

Not really worth it matey unless it is cheaper. Also the cosmetics of the accident does not classify it for a CAT D unless there is something else seriously wrong which has been sort of "fixed". It takes at least more than 60% (give and take 5%)generally of the repair cost of the car for it to be written off - CAT D that is.